Thursday, December 3, 2009

Telangana


Note : Please watch the above videos before you conclude something.

* This topic is a tribute to "Srikanth 'who became a 'martyr' for Telangaana

*** Nenu Saitam Prapanchaagniki Samidhanokkati Aahuticchaanu 

*** First Victory of Telangaana over Injustice and Exploitation

 
The water is flowing in Krishna. Kondapur is deserted. It usually is, in the month of May. This village in Mahbubnagar(Palamooru) district of Telangana falls in the belt known for some of the highest levels of migration in south India each year. Countless households lie locked up. Just three years ago, there were 40 to 45 bus services a week to Mumbai from Mahbubnagar(Palamooru) district. This year the number is down to 28(Thanks to NREGA programme). For the farmers , the bus to Mumbai is their route to survival . A hope of work and income for 1/3 rd of the population(nearly 10 lakhs) in this district. Shall I call this DEVELOPMENT ??

"Krishna river enters into Andhra Pradesh through Mahbubnagar (Palamooru) district of Telangaana".

This is what i used to read in my Geography lessons in school days. But i used to wonder why I was standing in a big Que for 2 hours near a water tanker , daily. Where all the river water is going? Why cant we access it? Is not the river ours too? The water is flowing in Krishna.  Is the Geography wrong? Is it printing mistake or, Someone  else's deliberate, planned, cunning mistake for their selfish/greedy ends? More questions used to pop out of my mind whenever i saw the dry fields in the villages. More naked truths came in front of me, shamelessly. The Mahabubnagar(Palamooru) labour is popular all over India, particularly in Mumbai.   Software is not the only thing A.P. exports. Nor hi-tech brains to the United States. Misery-driven migrations, hunger, and distress are among its other major products.

The water is flowing in Krishna....but still we have deep debts, starving children, terrible distress , devastated fields, dry tanks and dead streams,  burning lives, soul-breaking slums, evaporating hopes and the questions of survival. When the mild HCL keeps touching  the walls of stomach ruthlessly thrice a day, how come we can fight against injustice and inequality. Whom shall we approach? How shall we approach ? We heard many promises from many leaders ,right from Nehru to KCR.  It is been 60 years after independence, but still the water is flowing in Krishna, for someone else.

The water is flowing in Krishna. Soon i had realized that the unreported, regular, constant, isolated, neglected, happening farmer suicides is quite common to all the 10 districts of Telangana, in-spite of two major rivers, Godavari and Krishna , flow through the Telangaana.
 Nagarjuna Sagar Dam(Nalgonda) could not solve the problem of Fluorosis in Nalgonda, but water from the dam is being pipelined to Hyderabad. WHY and for whom?
Manjeera river (Medak) water is not used for Agriculture in Medak,  but the same water is diverted to Hyderabad for drinking. WHY and for whom?
The story of discrimination/exploitation/injustice/looting is the identity of Telangana now. Where all the water is going? Why Telangaana is backward in-spite of huge natural resources (Rivers, soils, forests, minerals, lakes). 
The truth is that the fate of Telangaana is same everywhere, since decades, since centuries.
Who is responsible for this plundering, Injustice and Exploitation?
Who is looting us in the name of one state(AP)?
What is the solution? 
Naxalism ?
Separate state?
Before i could say yes ,,,,,,


Suddenly, someone asked me few questions from the green paddy fields of Coastal Andhra.

1. If The water is flowing in Krishna ,  then, why Telangaana?
Because, in the same state of Andhra Pradhesh

someone sucks the water from our dams...
someone sucks the blood from our arteries...
but when we drill for ground water, we get debts, instead of water.
someone have 3 crops in a year....
we have 3 migrations in a year....


someone uses pesticides for their commercial crops
 we use pesticides to drink and say bye bye

someone have excess food grains ...
We have excess suicides...


someone learns the route to USA
We learn the route to Mumbai


someone have water round the clock....
We don't have water to drink even if the water keeps evaporating from our tired bodies.


someone speak the language of domination...
We hear the language of humiliation ...



someone have stolen our jobs, shamelessly, cunningly, ruthlessly...
And gave us insults on our language and culture, in return...


someone have media and government in their hands....
we have route map of Mumbai and Dubai in our hands....

  Finally, if we can have water, we can have crops. If crops, then we can have money. If money, then we can have power. Yes, Power, to rule ourselves, to have identity and self respect.... to free ourselves from discrimination/exploitation/injustice/looting.....Hence, that's why we need Telangaana.

 2 .We should have only one state for all Telugu speaking people.
If we can have more than 3 states for Hindi speaking people why not for Telugu?

 Moreover, you always say that the Telangaana language is impure Telugu , right? You hate our festivals, dialect and culture. Then why do you need us?? Ohhhhoooo... k k k k....acha.....your wicked concern is all about the mighty capital, our Hyderabad. I Got it now. You Andhra leaders na, always cunning.

3. Yes, you telangaanites  speak impure Telugu. 
In the 23 districts of AP , each district has got different slang/dialect. On what basis and criteria you say that one slang is pure/impure. Just because people from one district entered the print/electronic media first and used their language, does it become pure?

For your kind information, Telangaana literally means "land of telugus". The word Telugu originated from Trilinga, Telunga,  Telinga, Telangana and Tenunga. (Refer : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu)
 Now tell me, Is Telangaana telugu impure?

4. It is meaningless to divide India into small states.
Then why did the Andhra (not AP) got separated from Chennai state in 1953? Isnt it double standards? 
USA  have 50 states . Many nations in Europe are smaller than Telangaana.
70% states in India are much smaller than Telangaana. Then why the fuss?
Why do not you see it as an administrative convenience?


5. Telangana state will become like Jharkhand and Chhattisgarh? 
    Telangana state will become like Punjab and Haryana.
By the way, Telangana has already become a Jharkand/Chattisgarh by staying in United AP since 50 years


6. Do you think you will get developed by getting separate Telangaana?

 Development ???? Nice joke dude. Let us think about our survival first. Then we will plan how to stop water in our dams , how to get our jobs back from you, how to preserve our language and culture,  how to utilize our natural resources etc.  Of course, the corruption and politics will be there as usual. Telangaana is to stop Andhra leaders from looting us and allowing the Telangaana leaders to loot us.
Anyway, being an independent state , Telangana will get minimum constitutional safeguards in all sectors.

7. Then, will you kick us from Hyderabad?
Dont worry dude. We are not as selfish and cunning . It is just a states reorganization, not country's division. Anyone, irrespective of his state, can live here happily. (Many Marathis and Gujarathis have been living in Hyderabad since Nizam's rule). You are most welcome to stay until and unless you think to rule and dominate us.

8. No, we wont accept ...... Hyderabad is ours.

 @#+_$%*&_*%^+)_#%:"{_/''}]]^~}[^*(*&%^*(#$_..........Got it ?????

Dude, please don't test our patience. We do have limits to our tolerance
400 year old Hyderabad had been built by our taxes and labour.
Have some shame to claim it. Moreover it is located in the center of Telangaana, geographically. Use some minimum sense. No one is asking anyone to leave the capital. In india we have single citizenship which gives you the right to live anywhere. Hyderabad can  still be yours, even after the formation of telangana depending on the number of years you stay here(please read:Mulki Rules)

9. It is ridiculous to divide "TeluguThalli "....
Where was Teluguthalli when Gentlemen's agreement/Mulki Rules/610 GO/SRC Recommendation were violated completely ? 
Where was Teluguthalli when you had started Jai Andhra in 1972 just because  Supreme Court ordered AP to implement Mulki Rules?

Our Telugu text books have lessons on "Atlathadde"  but the Telangaana festivals like "Bathukamma" and "Sammakka-sarakka" are nowhere mentioned in our syllabus. Why?
Are we not sons of Teluguthalli? 
If Bharatmata(nationalism) and Teluguthalli (sub nationalism) can coexist, why cannot Telanganathalli(subnationalism) coexist with the other two mothers.

10. What shall andhra farmers do if you stop all water ?
No state in India can stop a river water completely, as there is an Inter state river tribunal  which regulates the river water sharing among different states.
Also, whenever a new state forms, there will be a commission to decide the sharing of Resources/Revenue/Jobs/Water/.

BTW, even the Telangana state has not yet formed, you Andhra leaders have already started worrying about water, jobs, resources etc, Just imagine the plight of Telangana who's resources have been exploited by you since 50 years........... ??
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Anyways, the water is flowing in Krishna. There are often over 100 passengers on those 58-seat buses. Which means some people are standing for much of that 18-hour journey. And then there are the huge numbers from this district heading for Hyderabad. Also, to at least 30 other destinations ranging from Gujarat to Rajasthan, even Orissa.
What accounts for this desperate out-migration?
"Without Mumbai and Pune, we cannot survive,

Until we get our water, to drink at-least, if not for cropping, the route to Mumbai will be our lifeline. ......


 My heart roars, thumping my fist into the air, with equal anguish and pride, on behalf of all the  farmers, students and martyrs of Telangaana..
"Jai Telangaana, Jai Jai Telangaana"..... 
"Naa Telangaana Koti Ratanaala Veena"....
" Nenu Saitham, Nenu Saitham....."

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BTW, the water is flowing in Godavari too, which enters Andhra Pradesh through Adilabad district of Telangaana".... and the same story of discrimination/exploitation/injustice/looting continues there too.

JAI HIND .....


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PS :(Facts)

1.Out of the 28 states and 7 UTs currently in India , 70% are smaller than Telangana. Telangana’s  population is 30 million plus. There are 25 states that are smaller than Telangana in population.
2. Mahbubnagar(my native place,100 km from Hyderabad) is the worst district in terms of literacy, because the mass migrations destroy any chance of education for the children who accompany their parents for months at a time.
3. The rivers of Krishna and Godavari flow through Telangana, and the dams are in Telangana, but the canals carrying the water go to Coastal Andhra
4. Except for common language, the people of Andhra and Telangana have different dialects, histories, cultural systems, different food habits
5.When Telangana was liberated(sep 17 1948) from the Nizam of Hyderabad, it was an independent state in the Union of India until 1956.
6.The uniqueness about Andhra pradesh is that it was formed by the combination of two states (Hyderabad and Andhra). Andhra was formed in 1953. Hyderabad was an independent state from 1948 to 1956. AP was formed on the promises of 1956 Gentleman's agreement . We are asking our state back.
7.# Godavari
-->flows 79% in Telangana and 21% in Andhra
--> 70% cultivable land is in Telangaana under Godavari waters
We hardly get 20% of water out of 1480 TMCs
What about the remaining 50 % of our share??

# Krishna
--> flows 68.5% in Telangana
18.39% in rayalaseema
13.11% in andhra
--> 65% cultivable land is in Telangaana under Krishna waters
--> Telangana gets only 65 TMCs out of 595 TMCs out of Krishna based projects
which is just 10%,
Rayalaseems gets 14.6 %
Ramaining 75 % goes to Andhra
Is it fair? isnt it injustice?
What about the remaining water since decades??
--> Mahabubnagar gets 25% of Krishna water, but why did it still remains most backward district with regular drought and famines? 

8. Please read the following topics before you conclude and comment on Telangaana so that we can have rational and meaningful discussion. 
1. Telangana @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telangana
2. SRC Report @ http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/India_States_Reorganisation_Commission_Report_Telangana_Andhra
3. Gentlemen's Agreement @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_agreement_of_Andhra_Pradesh_%281956%29
4. Mulki Rules
5. 610 GO
1969 Jai Telangana Movement
7. 1972 Jai Andhra Movement
 

126 comments:

Jacobpaul said...
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Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Jacob
Thanks for your response.
Then please tell your friends to join the movement.
Atleast to support the movement.

Monica said...

well said, see the plight of Telangana people, ap govt is still not showing any updates in media, they are scared to show

Dheeraj said...

Jai Telangana...Jai Jai Telangana...

RS Thakur said...

facts well said
Jai Telangana

raju said...

Mahesh Excellent..............


Jai Telangana...Jai Jai Telangana...

Hyderabaadi said...

as useual well explanation mahesh.
just tell me honestly if your belogs to some place from east or west godavari then r u raising same points ????

Hyderabaadi said...
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Santhosh said...

Well said Mahesh........JAI TELANGANA.

BK Chowla said...

It is my opinion that it is much better to govern a small state.
Telangana has become a political issue for no reason. I think each party wants to take a slice of the credit.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Monica
@ Dheeraj
@ Thakur..

Thanks a bunch for your responses :)

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Jacob...

Am sorry to delete your comments as it was out of social acceptance parameters....
I do understand your anguish and frustration....
Thanks :)

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Hyderabadi...

Yeah, I would have written same points but with more anguish and sarcasm :)
Thanks for raising a genuine, valid, relevant and rational point...
Please do keep expressing your concerns :)
Thanks a lot :)

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Chowla ji

You are absolutely correct in saying so.
Telangaana has become a tool for political bargains .
Thanks for your feedback

Roshmi Sinha said...

'Telangaana'... is just a political tool out of which some folks can draw political mileage and further their own interests and careers.

Look at what happened to Jharkhand...

The so-called 'people's representatives' have only one interest in their minds and hearts. That of the person they see everyday while looking into the mirror.

It is a pity... that in a country like India (in the words of the great Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay... "Sujalam Suphhalam, Malayajasheetalam,
Sasyashyamalam Mataram") we suffer from severe water crisis.

A few days back... the newspapers informed me that our "people's representatives" in Namma Bengaluru... are thinking of imposing a 'flood tax'. On us, poor unsuspecting souls...

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Roshmi

Well said buddy....
You said"What happened in Jharkhand?"

I say "Look, what happened in Punjab"?

Telangaana is a historical, sociological and cultural sub-nationalism where as Jharkand is based one one parameter 'backwardness'....

I do agree with you that Telanagaa is a tool in political hands..... But Telangaana did exist much before the politics started to learn its spelling

Rachana Shakyawar said...

@ Mahesh

Great attempt on throwing some light your strong views and facts!
Shame on me that being an Indian, I did not had much correct knowledge.

However, I was in a way aware of the some core issues like Water, Migration…language, literacy and so on. Indeed, its story of survival!

Don’t think that I’m say just for the sake…But I truly empathize and understand the issue, At least now after reading your post. This is humiliating rejected feeling for the basics of life existence.

But this ugly race of survival exists everywhere and each part of the country even abroad.
Of coarse this fact does not suggest sitting down and forgetting but I like and appreciate your skills in propagating and presenting the right and correct info.

One thing that grabbed my attention was “Small States like europe”! Yeah in a way, I like this idea if properly executed. However, again we come back to point zero, in India we have to also consider the fact that the power ruling has to be capable of it.


Despite you have given so many facts and figures and also belonging to the same place…still are not able to Conclude this post! Perhaps, how can I conclude then…only thing that I wish everything fits the right place soon and the farmers/poor get at least the basics of life that they absolutely deserve it.

Correct me in any case, if I'm wrong!

santosh said...

Jai Telangaana, Jai .. Jai Telangaana

Nice article annai and very great information.

I just want to say one thing, Hey You people over there who dont know about Telangaana and insult it even after using it's resources completely and ignoring it please pack your bags and get back to your place if you have any shame and guts.

Thank you!!!


Jai Telangaana, Jai .. Jai Telangaana

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Rachana....

Thanks for empathizing with me and getting my intention in the right way....

1. Despite you have given so many facts and figures and also belonging to the same place…still are not able to Conclude this post!
--> Yes, I did not conclude, deliberately, as I am going to write one more post on the same topic with more comprehensiveness and questions....
I wanted the readers to raise more questions so that i can answer them with numbers and referrals ....

2. In India we have to also consider the fact that the power ruling has to be capable of it.
--> As Indian has the uniqueness of being a non uniform nation with diversity at the core, we cannot govern it by one general Law. So we need different laws and policies as per the needs of local issues pertaining to that region. Telangaana, Vidharbha and Bundelkhand need more specific laws, which can be possible only through the state formation.
Capability?.... Same question was being asked by Winston Churchill when we asked them from Independence, "Are you capable of ruling yourselves??"

Anyways, thanks a lot for your analytical feedback with valid questions... feel free to raise more questions.
Thanks again :)

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Santhosh,

I can understand your frustration...
But i opine that it is not fair to ask people to leave Hyderabad as it is not a country partition. In India anyone can live anywhere. There is a criteria of zones and local parameters.
Jai Telangaana

Jacobpaul said...

I understand your concern, but the problem is we Telangana people are too soft, i can see this in you too

I really liked your article, no issues if you have deleted my reply, but i will not take my words back :)

Jai Telangana Jai Jai Telangana

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Jacob

Thanks a bunch for getting my point.
Yeah....we are too soft, i agree. But we should not lose respect from the people who may support our movement.
Our fight is against the system , not the people.
Thanks again :)

CVR said...

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Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ CVR,

Jai Telangaana....

Mana Telangaana koti ratanaala Veena
Mana Telangaana koti ratanaala Veena
Mana Telangaana koti ratanaala Veena
Mana Telangaana koti ratanaala Veena
Mana Telangaana koti ratanaala Veena

Jai Jai Telangaana....

Raghav said...

Hi Mahesh...

I have tried to comment on the blog, but its too long, so the posting thing is not working, so i put it on my blog, please check it at http://munnangisblog.blogspot.com/, let me also know if there is a way i can put it here.

Urs,
raghav

Raghav said...

Nice Blog Mahesh, very enlightening about the plight of people from our very own state, and as per your words it’s like a total new place which many are not aware of. If I can say, it’s like, if you are right now at the very place that you are talking about and you just can’t believe it until and unless you were told that you are right now in Telangaana, which is as of today a very much part of “The Rice Bowl of India”- ANDHRA PRADESH. I can feel the anger in your words; it’s like a tight slap right on the face while reading the blog.

I tried to stand in your shoes while reading the blog, I may not completely say that I can feel your pain and understand your anger, which nobody from outside can, but, I can feel that I very much react the same way if I’m under the same circumstances…

My comment on your blog is in 3 parts (it’s lengthier than the blog itself)
1. The new Nightmare
2. The original comments on the blog
3. Why things remain like this forever

The new Nightmare

I wanted to raise some concerns about the blog and the way it was written, and I know that I just cannot ask you questions just because I felt a tight slap, so I went to find myself why people are so angry and what made a compassionate guy like Mahesh write such a strong article…and what I have found is more startling …it’s like a holocaust waiting to happen and it’s just around the corner….and I have seen the signs of it, even in your blog too….the issue of favoritism shown towards one region and political regionalism doesn’t seemed too big for me at this juncture since what I found is that people are filled with HATRED.

I don’t know if hatred towards people from other region is justifiable just because of Telangaana issue. I have seen numerous blogs and articles all over the internet and you can feel that something is seriously wrong going around here.

I felt like we are just looking for more reasons to hate each other. Hatred among people is not good and you are also very well aware of such thing. Even though it’s not new to us, it’s definitely getting worse by day, strong mutual hatred between people from same state but different regions. I don’t know if this hatred is confined to Internet alone or is it very much alive in normal people who don’t know what a computer is. If my worst fears come true, we are going to have a better and refined version of Raj Thackeray and MNS waiting to happen in ANDHRA STYLE. We have seen it Maharashtra, we have seen it in Karnataka towards the Tamils and we are just waiting for that to happen in our very own state among our very own people. It’s like they hate me just because I’m from Vijayawada even though they just don’t know what I really am.

People are talking about a new state and a GO for sending people from other regions out of their jobs and homes, all these things are not the cases while other states in India are separated into smaller ones. This is the same hatred which created India-Pakistan and the consequences of which we facing till now. I’m not saying that this will happen even in our state too, but what if???

It’s like after searching for a while I’m completely lost, am I searching about the root causes of Telangaana issue or am I looking at people who hate each other so much without even having a remotest idea about the other person, may be you will also emphasize on this aspect in your next blog.

Raghav said...

The original comments on the blog

The blog also says very clearly that “Someone = Andhraites” there is no ambiguity in that, but it’s very generic and you called me cunning. Not even you Mahesh. It’s like all of a sudden I’m a victim of the Telangaana issue. Jokes apart, I feel like you got more power in your hands now, there is a very good group of followers to your blog, and as said in the Spiderman Movie, with great power comes great responsibility. I know you can make a bigger splash. I think that the real Telangaana struggle is not a separatist idea, but it is a demand for fair share and I hope it remains the same. Let me know if I’m wrong.

If I’m wrong, then these words which I heard sometime back “British introduced Divide and Rule and We Indians Mastered it” will become true and what’s the outcome of such thing, as we always know it’s nothing but a new state with lot of new troubles, you may have water and green fields though, but more regional hawks waiting for you to collapse.

And I felt the blog didn’t address the gravity of the situation in depth and what are the main reasons for such conditions, is it only because Coastal Andhra is getting water, I think there are much more complicated issues which are never mentioned in the blog. Like, fluoride problem in Nalgonda Dist, Feudal and land lords reign in the region, Naxalism which was created because of these issues and ended up killing innocent people, no proper leadership and no goals properly set for short and long terms. What I have observed is everybody talks about separate state, which is a long term goal, but nobody talks and does anything small or big about making the meager needs met in the region...

Raghav said...

Why things remain like this forever

So many social and issues we talk about and may be this is the right time we prioritize them and act accordingly and frankly speaking not many people are aware of the worse situations mentioned in the blog, that’s the kind of bubble we all live in. if Pawan Kalyan talks few punch dialogues just before the pop corn brake of Jalsa giving people very little time to think why the protagonist reacted all of a sudden like that and immediately the tempo of the situation is diluted by comedy scenes in less than 5 minutes. And everybody once again engaging with the movie eating popcorn and nobody even thinks what’s wrong with themselves and everyone around, why are we so insensitive… that’s what all the movies and other things like media bring into light….

We need to save ourselves for this ever evolving regionalism, which will one day consumes everything for worse, and exactly at that time I want 2012 to be true, but hey, it’s not, we can’t have such peaceful death, we will rot here in this very world till we die, until and unless we change ourselves….

Once I heard these words in a TV Debate “We, Indians votes on promises not on performance” and what a wonderful insight. That’s very much true. If TRS says we’ll get it, we vote them, if Congress says, “vote me, Telangana State is just around the corner, we vote them, we vote every hypocrite even though we know him that he is one cunning hyena waiting to lurk on us and eat us alive…if there is any animal out there to which we can compare Politicians, its none other than Hyenas, (I’m extremely sorry Hyenas, I just can’t help it, please don’t feel bad….) And even after knowing all these things we fight for a new state, just to offer ourselves to the new pack of the worst animals ever walked on the surface of earth who prey on weaker animals, in our case, everybody who can’t have ends meet.

I’ll tell you why politicians don’t care s*** about Telangaana people, the state of AP has seen 5 CMs and 1 PM from Telangaana region alone and their total sum of days in which they are in power is close to 15.6 yrs, which is 1/3rd of the time during which we are a separate state, but what happened…..nothing…..

We blog and scold politicians and call it a day, tomorrow I may not even think of this again, but how long can we continue like this…I can’t ask somebody else to fight for me, nobody does and even if they start fighting, they will lose the spirit some time and give up…..well…it’s not my fight….to hell with it…and can we blame him for that…no way….this is what is happening out there…

Raghav said...

I may not be correct, but what I think should be done is, more awareness among people, not in Telangaana alone, but in every nook and corner of AP. Ask me why I mentioned Telangaana in the awareness part, tell me how many people in Hyderabad which is in center of Telangaana are fighting for the cause, let’s forget cause for few minutes, how many of them are actively participating for their friends, relatives, families…I don’t think there are so many, even though from every 5-10 persons from Telangaana region has somebody in Hyderabad who is close to him and he may be aware or unaware of the situation back home.

After all this what I think is a solution is ….not a separate state, but Self-governance is the solution, don’t bring the revolution to Hyderabad, because that’s the first people care less about any issue, either it is Telangaana or anything else for that matter, people come to places like Hyderabad, Mumbai and other cities who are more occupied with many of their own issues like feeding a family of four, the revolution should stay at each and every village of Telangaana and stir the surroundings into a tornado and what happens when multiple tornados creating a tornado outbreak and start sweeping everything in its course, they wipe out cities and even countries from the map, and we just want something like that. Till that day comes nothing is going to work, going to Hyderabad and Delhi pleading for a separate state won’t work at all. Period.

May be its time to take things into own hands and stop blaming somebody who is less interested in our struggle for daily bread. Screw him. I don’t know whether its sounds simple or complicated, but I think it can work. I even don’t know if this was tried before.

Disclaimer: I’m not an expert in this field and the views mentioned here are purely from my point of view and they are not intended to hurt anybodies ideas, views and beliefs.

Pallavi said...

Hi Mahesh,..

Very nice article with so much information....
I'm sure there are many like me who miss on some or the other points that u mentioned.......
I truly wish all this effort reaches the right direction and everything falls in place soon for the poor and sufferers......

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Pallavi...

Thanks for your words and support. Lets hope the train travels on the right track towards the right destination . Hoping for a peaceful Journey :)

santosh said...

I m here not blaming anyone or hating..
I m just conveying my message that,
Atleast from now let telanganites enjoy their resources.
Atleast from now let telanganites get their share of jobs.
Atleast from now let telanganites feel like yes we are living in our own place.
And My dear Telanganites, if not this time, I dont think we get another oppurtunity to fight for our rights again through this kind of movement.

Arise, Awake, Stop not till we reach our goal(Telangaana).

Jai Telangaana!!!

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Raghava,

1. I don’t know if hatred towards people from other region is justifiable just because of Telangaana issue.

The issue is not hatred. Hatred is one of the consequences of Exploitation and Injustice. What else you expect other than anger if people are getting cheated openly since decades in the name of agreemenets and commiiteess
Telangaana issue has not originated to hate Andhraites. Telanagaana is about getting the rights to access their resources for livelihood. You cannot generalise it by few blogs and few persons anger, including mine, out of 4 crores population of population . It is not about you and me, nor few online techies. It is about the cries of hapless destitutes.


2. I felt like we are just looking for more reasons to hate each other.

Buddy, who is searching for reasons?. Is not it naked fact that we dont get water? Is denying us our share of jobs not a fact? Is it like searching for reasons? In your total reply, you have nowhere mentioned about the water and language concerns. Why?. Have you searched for reasons too to justify your stand?
The issue of Telangana is of 60 years age.
Similarly Jai Andhra movement was started in 1972. What about that?
I do understand your concern of hatred, but Hatred is one of the consequences of the movement. The movement primarily started against Injustice and Inequality and Telangaana adhers to it.



3. Raj Thackeray and MNS waiting to happen in ANDHRA STYLE
--> I totally disagree with this point. MNS concern is about Marathis (language basis) . Maharashtra also faces similar regional issue in the name of backwardness called "Vidharbha" movement . You can compare Telangaana to Vidharbha or Bundelkhnad , but not MNS. Telangaana is primarily about resources and valid share in socio-polito-economic domains. Marathi Manoos is only a pet of MNS. Telangaana origins are in the people and society . Sadly, it has been hijacked by Congress(1969) and TRS(2004-09)


4. It’s like they hate me just because I’m from Vijayawada even though they just don’t know what I really am.
--> How many Telangaanites you have confronted with who have hated you in your life, just because you are from Vijayawada??
Isnt it too abstract?

Mahesh Kalaal said...

5. People are talking about a new state and a GO for sending people from other regions out of their jobs and homes, all these things are not the cases while other states in India are separated into smaller ones.
--> Yes, the issue is about jobs too.
--> The new states that were formed out of larger states was on the basis of regional backwardness only(Jharkand, Chattisgarh, Uttaranchal)
--> The uniqueness about Andhra pradesh is that it was formed by the combination of two states (Hyderabad and Andhra). Andhra was formed in 1953. Hyderabad was an independent state from 1948 to 1956. AP was formed on the promises of 1956 Gentleman's agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_agreement_of_Andhra_Pradesh_(1956)) on jobs sharing based on six zones.However, the Gentlemen's agreement was never implemented . Discontent with the 1956 Gentleman's agreement, the Jai Telangaana movement intensified in January 1969 when the guarantees that had been agreed on were supposed to lapse. Approximately 360 students gave their lives in this movement
Please read the Agreement once, which was never implemented. Now you got the reason for asking you to leave our jobs and go back to your local jobs .
So, we are not asking for a new state, but, for an existed state long back.
--> The States Reorganization Commission (SRC) was not in favour of merging the Telangana region with the then Andhra state

--> So, our one Telugu state was historical false agreement
--> Why did nt Sree potti sree ramulu gaaru asked for Telangaana merging too in 1953 itself when he fasted for separate andhra from Madras?
--> What happened in between 1953-56 that made a interest in Visalandra?. Money of Nizam Telanganaa??.... Ohh. The cunning exploitation started then itself.


6. This is the same hatred which created India-Pakistan and the consequences of which we facing till now.
I wont with agree with this comparison too. It is too vague.

--> India and Pakistan were formed on the basis of religion . The difference between Telangaana and Andhra are completely different . It is of Socio-politico-economic aspects .
--> Take the history too. You were under British rule and hence good education. We were under Nizam'z rule and hence urdu education until 1948. Telangaana needs special laws and policies to address the backwardness and isolation, which can hppen only through state formation. We have waited for enough time since 1956. All Committees and Agreements have done nothing till now.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

7. I think that the real Telangaana struggle is not a separatist idea, but it is a demand for fair share and I hope it remains the same. Let me know if I’m wrong.
--> You are correct buddy. But the concept of Fair share never took shape and it wont. It was just limited to paper work. Example: the Gentlemen's agreement was never implemented. Similarly, 8 point formula, 6 point formula, 1969 agreement and 610 G0 were never implemented. Ultimately you made us to think about separate state.

--> Coming to separation. We were separate initially , 1948. It was you who asked us to join on false promises in 1956. We were apprehensive since 1956(read SRC commission and G-Agreement)

--> It is the actions of the Andhra rulers which left us with no other option , other than Separate state.

--> We are ready to be united, provided our share of jobs and water to us. But 50 years is much more time for waiting . Am i correct buddy? We could have believed you if you have fulfilled one promise at least.

What will you do if your mom feeds only your brother, inspite of knowing that you are weak and hungry since days?. Separation or revolution? I guess the hatred starts too. Got my anguish now??

Similarly, the government neither gives us food nor allows us to prepare food. What shall we do?

8. British introduced Divide and Rule and We Indians Mastered it” will become true and what’s the outcome of such thing, as we always know it’s nothing but a new state with lot of new troubles, you may have water and green fields though, but more regional hawks waiting for you to collapse.
--> The statements remind me the sayings of Churchill...... "What will you do after getting independence.? You are not capable of ruling yourselves?. How about the problems of caste system and social inequalities? "
--> Yes, troubles will be there irrespective of whether we are in united AP or in Telangaana.
You dont worry about that. Let us get our state first. It is our headache to deal with the troubles. Name a state without troubles? We have two choices 1. Troubles with Andhra leaders 2. troubles with Local leaders. We chose second one for the sake of our survival, identity and self respect.

--> Before worrying about our future, think about your regional inequalities of "Uttarandhra" and 'Dakshinandhra'


9 . is it only because Coastal Andhra is getting water

--> It is because we are not getting our water and instead our water is being diverted to coastal andhra.

--> When Maharashtra and Karnataka can store water for their requirement through dams on Krishna and Godawari, then isnt it our right to stop our share of water atleast, if not grabbing every drop like you.?

--> You will know the pain if telangaana state forms and we stop the water for you? Is it fair?. (We wont do that, anyway)

Mahesh Kalaal said...

10. And I felt the blog didn’t address the gravity of the situation in depth and what are the main reasons for such conditions, is it only because Coastal Andhra is getting water, I think there are much more complicated issues which are never mentioned in the blog. Like, fluoride problem in Nalgonda Dist, Feudal and land lords reign in the region,

--> The topic is why we need Telangaana and the reasons for the demand of separate state and hence i didnt mention them. Those issues comes into picture if we talk about which telangaana we want.
--> Not only Nalgonda, we have distinct problems in all districts ,for which to resolve we need money, to have money we need crops and jobs, to have crops and jobs, we need water and state.
--> Telangaana movement is not because of the issues of fluoride problem in Nalgonda Dist, Feudal and land lords reign. It is primarily because of the denial of natural access and rights of people, since decades. So, yes, it is because of the inequalities and injustice done by you for decades. Read the SRC report once @ http://en.wikisource.org /wiki/India_States_Reorganisation_Commission_Report_Telangana_Andhra.

--> Feudalism (Zamindari and Jagirdari) is not confined or specialized to Telangana. It is still hanging in many parts of India. Anyways, new state will give us powers to deal with it more strongly as it was abolished in India as per the 44th amendment to the constitution .

-->Naxalism was started in the village of Naxalbari in the Indian state of West Bengal in 1967. Telangana issue was in existence since 1948. The only link was that Naxalism was also one of the chief supporters for Telangana state formation.
--> Naxalism is not confined to state formation, rather, it was more concerned about the socialistic and communistic goals of equal society. State formation was not its primary goal of origin. It is a national issue.
--> Naxalism is not confined to Telangaana alone. It is in West Bengal, Chattisgarh, Jharkand, . The stretch is known as 'Red corridor
--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalism
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11. What I have observed is everybody talks about separate state, which is a long term goal, but nobody talks and does anything small or big about making the meager needs met in the region...
--> You are correct in saying so....
--> The situation is so worse in telangaana that even the meager things make us to beg before you.
--> In 60 years of independence, Satya sai water project has done what govt was unable to do in 60 years. It laid water connectivity from Krishna river to some parts of Mahabubnagar and Kurnool.
--> To do something we need power and money or political will which can be obtained only through separate state.
--> we cannot impact AP CM to give us water, but we can definitely demand our Telangana state CM to give us water. Political mileage do matters buddy



12. We need to save ourselves for this ever evolving regionalism
--> Regionalism evolves due to the inequalities, exploitation and injustice to certain regions. As India is a non uniform and polarised nation, Regionalism is obvious. Moreover India is a sub continent where sub-nationalism is much quite natural to pop up.
--> The only solution is Equal and welfare society , rather than greedy and polarised society

13 . And even after knowing all these things we fight for a new state, just to offer ourselves to the new pack of the worst animals ever walked on the surface of earth who prey on weaker animals, in our case, everybody who can’t have ends meet.
--> Yes , you are absolutely correct.
--> We have two choices
a) Andhra Hyenas
b) Telangaana Hyenas

We chose Telangana Hynas. Simply becasue they gives us water and food before killing us.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

14. the state of AP has seen 5 CMs and 1 PM from Telangaana region alone and their total sum of days in which they are in power is close to 15.6 yrs, which is 1/3rd of the time during which we are a separate state, but what happened…..nothing…..
--> Hmmmm............ Buddy, it was a nominal arrangement of congress party to pacify the telangana issue .-
--> What can a puppet and pet leaders can do?
--> It is like saying that Manmohan Singh is PM, but every one knows with whom the real power resides. Need to say more?
---> It is not that they havent done anything, it was because of the fact that they were not allowed to do anything. Anyways, political arrangements did affect us in 1969 itself.
--> We need real power, not nominal posts.
--> It was part of the 1969 and Gentlements agreement to make Telangana leader as CM. It was more of a congress ritual than real political power in hands of telangaana.
--> Yes. The PM too didnt do anything. So, cant we claim for our state and rights now ?
-->OK . If nothing happened during their rule of 15.6 years , nothing happened too during the remaining period of Andhra CMs
So, we prefer our dumb telangaana leaders to the cunning Andhra leaders.
Atleast we will be looted by our own landlords. I mean it


15 . We blog and scold politicians and call it a day, tomorrow I may not even think of this again, but how long can we continue like this…I can’t ask somebody else to fight for me, nobody does and even if they start fighting, they will lose the spirit some time and give up…..well…it’s not my fight….to hell with it…and can we blame him for that…no way….this is what is happening out there…

--> You are correct in saying so.
--> I am not sure about others. But I am into movement. i dont confine myself to just words and blogs.
--> The students who faught in 1969 and who are fighting now do not belong to any political party. It is their volunteer participation.



16 .tell me how many people in Hyderabad which is in center of Telangaana are fighting for the cause
--> Tell me how many Telugu people in Chennai had really fought for separate Andhra state along with Sri ramulu gaaru.?


17. After all this what I think is a solution is ….not a separate state, but Self-governance is the solution . don’t bring the revolution to Hyderabad, going to Hyderabad and Delhi pleading for a separate state won’t work at all

--> Self Governance
You are absolutely correct in saying so. I totally agree with you. We can have self governance in a new state too as Constitution is providing us with Local self Governing bodies under 73rd and 74th constitutional amendments.
Think once. We can have better self governance with our own power/govt than self governance with someone's power.

BTW, will the Andhra leaders really allow us to have self governance within AP. ? May be. But we stopped believing you. The Agreements, packages and new Administrative Jargons are enough now. We are tired .

Hyderabad
--> Then why did Sri potti sri ramulu gaaru went to chennai to protest?
--> Why did our freedom fighters leaders fought towards delhi?
--> If I start the movement in the forests of Adilabad, will the govt really worry about our concerns?
--> Why not Hyderabad?. Hyderabad is very much crucial for us strategically


18 .May be its time to take things into own hands and stop blaming somebody who is less interested in our struggle for daily bread
--> May be it works...
-->But we are sure that separate state definitely works

Sridhar Iyer said...

Well after reading this article and comments posted all I can say is my country's end is near.

I am not against smaller states, there are many advantages with the smaller states. Be it telangana, jharkand or anything. My concern is our attitude towards our own countrymen. Let me tell you people, even if there is a seperate telangana its not you who is going to rule, its the same politicians who are gonna take over. The problems (water, employement, etc....) are not because of andhra's, maharashtrians, keralites or (25 others) its becuase of these politicans. As long as they are here these problems would stay.

But atleast till today I felt the public of India was one but when I read such articles and comments for that I'm scared. Looks like tomorrow after you get telangana you gonna construct a dam and say "NO Water" to the andhraites.

Don't say you won't today, No ones gonna agree after reading the hatered in your articles.

I hope my comment is not deleted just because I didnot say " Jai Telangana" cos for me it has always been and always will be "Bharat Mata ki Jai"

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Sridhar Iyer

Thanks for your bold response and feedback.... You are welcome to express your opinions within the limits of social parameters. Wisdomism is open to constructive criticism.
I guess you have generalized the Telangana state issue with other states and nationalistic fervor. I got your point but i have few apprehensions.

Have you know about the States Reorganization Commission, Gentlemen's agreement, 610 GO, six point formula and 8 point formula meant for Telangana region, which were never implemented till now.??

Let me clarify.
1. I wrote this topic after thoroughly reading the Telangaana History and struggle since independence.(I am a student of General Studies). It was like a case study, Anthropologically, too

2. The uniqueness about Andhra pradesh is that it was formed by the combination of two states (Hyderabad and Andhra). Andhra was formed in 1953. Hyderabad was an independent state from 1948 to 1956. AP was formed on the promises of 1956 Gentleman's agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_agreement_of_Andhra_Pradesh_(1956)) on jobs and water sharing based on six zones.However, the Gentlemen's agreement was never implemented . Discontent with the 1956 Gentleman's agreement, the Jai Telangaana movement intensified in January 1969 when the guarantees that had been agreed on were supposed to lapse. Approximately 360 students gave their lives in this movement
Please read the Agreement once, which was never implemented.
So, we are not asking for a new state, but, for an existed state long back.
--> The States Reorganization Commission (SRC) was not in favour of merging the Telangana region with the then Andhra state
Ref : http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/India_States_Reorganisation_Commission_Report_Telangana_Andhra

--> So, our one Telugu state was historical false agreement

3. We cannot say "No water to Andraites" even if we want too, because we have Inter state river tribunals and supreme court judgments in this regard though which the dams heights and coverage will be regulated.
Leave the future, answer the present. what do you say about the water they are grabbing without thinking about a drop for us? Isnt it "NO water " for Telanganites. Why dont you Question them ? why dont you speak about the injustice done by them ? Isnt it double standards which obviously leads to hatred?
Is Patriotism all about bearing the exploitation silently without complaining?

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Sridhar Iyer

4. I wrote this topic out of my own field experiences in Telangaana villages.

5. Jai Telnagaana need not clash with "Bharat Mata ki Jai". They do coexist.
Sub-nationalism and Nationalism are the inevitable factors in any nation.

6. We know that we wont rule the state in future. We have two choices.
1. Andhra leaders
2. Telangaana leaders
We choose Telangaana leaders becasue we cannot impact AP CM to give us water, but we can definitely demand our Telangana state CM to give us water.

7. We have waited for 50 years to get our justice and equal share. What else do you expect other than anger and frustration ?
Does "Bharat Mata ki Jai" slogan provides us survival?. It didnt till now.

8. Please read P. Sainath's(Magsaysay awardee---- Hindu paper) articles on Telangana if possible .

9. You need not say Jai Telanganaa. Even I will stop saying it provided that we will be treated with equality and justice.

10. Jai Telangaana doesnt mean that we hate india . Our anguish is not against the nation , but the system and the poeple who are supporting the system.
We are not hating the indian in Andhraites, we hate the exploitation in andhraites.

I hate fundamentalists and extremists in india and that doesnt mean that i am hating indians

11. Name one state which doesnt have internal conflict, regional/ religional.

12. We have a telugu matha and state song for her too and this too doesnt mean that we hate bharat mata and national song.

13 . All the southern states have border issues and river water sharing issues. Does it mean that all the southies are less patriotic and more regionalistic?

14. You said "Bharath mata ki jai" but forgot that the telangana farmers are also bharath mata's sons along with andhra farmers.

15. There is a Jai Andhra movement too. since 1972. What about this?

Thanks for raising the point of nationalism which enabled me to add few more points and aspects.

Shruti said...

Mahi, a vry good post!!
But I don't know wht the AP govt doesn't react to this issue properly.. The pitiable state must be resolved soon..Time is the answer! Lets wait n watch..

santosh said...

@ everyone who are against this article or telangaana.

I really dont understand your problem my dear friends...

Why dont you understand that we are asking for our rights?
Why dont you understand that its not about hating Andhras?
Why dont you understand our pain which we are suffering from decades?

and please just think what you do if you are in our place?

Hope you understand..

Thank you.

Jai telangaana .. Jai Jai telangaana...

Bharat mata ki jai!!!

pawan said...

Mahesh,
I swrite this comment as a True Andhraite and as an ardent loved of Telugu and India.
Do you think getting a separate state will fetch you water from the Krishna?
Do you think getting a separate state will leave empty seats in Hyderabad?

The Telangana districts are all economically backward due to many reasons and not all of them are politically related. If Telanga is made into a separate state, where will the funds come from? Again KCR will go begging for money, blame Andhra Pradesh.

I sincerely believe Telangana agitation is a cheap stunt by KCR and his aides. He is trying to imitate Sri Potti Sreeramulu minus the great sacrifice and true dedication. Politics is filth man. Look at these states, Jharkhand and Chattisgarh, what progress have they made? Nothing, they are the most economically backward states in India.

And we should never compare USA with India, USA has more resources financially and physicaly than India and it's less diverse. Russia has even more divisions but the number of divisions doesn't point towards development. It's the dedication of the youth that empowers the region.


You consider Telangana Telugu impure? Well, as you yourself mentioned a language has many dialects, you want a state for each dialect? Fine take it, but the smaller the states become, the greedy the schmucks in the Assembly become.

KCR is a total gimmick freak who aims for authority, do you know his personal history? Just dig more into it dude. If true Telangana exists it does in the blood of the people and their deeds.

Let's stay together, unite and fight all miseries together.

Jai Telugu Talli.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Pawan(and all those who have similar queries and opinions)

As you are a son of Teluguthalli, i would like to ask you few questions.

1. Have you read "Gentlemen's agreement" " of 1956 ?
2. Have you read "SRC Report"?
3. Do you know what is 610 GO?
4. Do you know why "Jai Andhra" started in 1972?
5. Do you know what is Telangana.?
6. Do you know what are Hyderabad Mulki Rules. ?

Telangaana @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telangana

Anyways I am answering your queries here.(please read the wiki links too)

1. Do you think getting a separate state will fetch you water from the Krishna?

Yes. I do , with conscience and consciousness. We will get water not only from Krishna, but also from Godawari too.
Because of the following facts.....
# Godavari
-->flows 79% in Telangana and 21% in Andhra
--> 70% cultivable land is in Telangaana under Godavari waters

We hardly get 20% of water out of 1480 TMCs
What about the remaining 50 % of our share??

# Krishna
--> flows 68.5% in Telangana
18.39% in rayalaseema
13.11% in andhra

--> 65% cultivable land is in Telangaana under Krishna waters
--> Telangana gets only 65 TMCs out of 595 TMCs out of Krishna based projects
which is just 10%,
Rayalaseems gets 14.6 %
Ramaining 75 % goes to Andhra
Is it fair? isnt it injustice?
What about the remaining water since decades??

--> Mahabubnagar gets 25% of Krishna water, but why did it still remains most backward district with regular drought and famines?

# Dont forget that Nagarjuna sagar dam is in Nalgonda district, (but still we dont get water.....hahaha). So if we get separate state then we can use sagar's waters for our purposes too. Dont worry, we dont block water for andhra.

2. Do you think getting a separate state will leave empty seats in Hyderabad?
Again Yes.
The uniqueness about Andhra pradesh is that it was formed by the combination of two states (Hyderabad and Andhra). Andhra was formed in 1953. Hyderabad was an independent state from 1948 to 1956. AP was formed on the promises of 1956 Gentleman's agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_agreement_of_Andhra_Pradesh_(1956)) on jobs and water sharing based on six zones.However, the Gentlemen's agreement was never implemented . Discontent with the 1956 Gentleman's agreement, the Jai Telangaana movement intensified in January 1969 when the guarantees that had been agreed on were supposed to lapse. Approximately 360 students gave their lives in this movement
Please read the Agreement once, which was never implemented.
So, we are not asking for a new state, but, for an existed state long back.
--> The States Reorganization Commission (SRC) was not in favour of merging the Telangana region with the then Andhra state
Ref : http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/India_States_Reorganisation_Commission_Report_Telangana_Andhra

--> So, our one Telugu state was historical false agreement

# A new secretariat and total new government machinery will definitely create ample jobs.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

3. The Telangana districts are all economically backward due to many reasons and not all of them are politically related. If Telanga is made into a separate state, where will the funds come from? Again KCR will go begging for money, blame Andhra Pradesh.

--> many reasons??? Could you please tell me few at least??
Have you ever been to a Telangana village?
--> Funds??
Beegging??(Dont you think that you have used a harsh word here?). Limits yaar.
What else do you expect other than anguish if you use such words on your fellow teluguthalli sons.


Do you think all telanganites are beggars? This is the opinion you have on us.
We do have rich coal fields(best in india), water resources, forests and mineral resources, but looted ruthlessly by Andhraites. We were utterly exploited. So new state provides us access to our resources. We are not beggars sir. We are paying taxes equally with andhra region. I will try to provide the taxing details if possible soon.

BTW, from where do Rosaiah begs if new Andhra state forms?? Logic ?

Our concern is not blaming AP, but, our rights and access.

Note: Whenever am existing state gets divided, the total financial capital will be divided among the two states. Got it?
So no one requires begging.


4 . I sincerely believe Telangana agitation is a cheap stunt by KCR and his aides. He is trying to imitate Sri Potti Sreeramulu minus the great sacrifice and true dedication. Politics is filth man.
--> Yes, you are correct. I do agree with you. Politics is filth
--> Telangana movement is in existence since 50 years. Telangaana and KCR are quite distinct.

KCR is one of the political leaders who emerged recently to use the telangaana factor to get power.
Also, now the movement is in the hands of Students primarily along with the KCR team(Yes, I have seen it in Osmani university and am participating in the movement)
--> Though i have high regards and respect towards revered Sri Potti Sriramulu gaaru, i have one query
Why didnt he fought for Telangaana too in 1953?? Why he wanted only Andhra from chennai state?

Anyways,
We have two choices.
1. Andhra filthy politics
2. Telangaana filthy politics
We choose Telangaana leaders becasue we cannot impact AP CM to give us water, but we can definitely demand our Telangana state CM to give us water. Got it now??

5 .Look at these states, Jharkhand and Chattisgarh, what progress have they made? Nothing, they are the most economically backward states in India.
--> Look at these states, Punjab and Haryana, what progress have they made? everything, they are one of the most economically forward states in India.

6. And we should never compare USA with India, USA has more resources financially and physicaly than India and it's less diverse.

--> Buddy, you ask any sociological, historical, political, anthropological, geographical expert, he will say that diverse regions need diverse laws, treatment and policies and hence diverse states.
--> Uncle Sam has his resources to manage his children and Bharath maatha has her resources to manage her children
BTW, India is the 5th largest economy in purchasing power parity.
What about innumerable smaller states in india that hardly have 2 distrcits.??

--> we are not asking for a new state, but, for an existed state long back. Hyderabad was an independent state from 1948 to 1956

Mahesh Kalaal said...

7. You consider Telangana Telugu impure? Fine take it, but the smaller the states become, the greedy the schmucks in the Assembly become.
--> I didnt say that Telangana Telugu impure . I said Andhraites have this opinion
I said that there is nothing like pure or impure language. Telugu was originated in Telangana. Check wiki once.

8. Well, as you yourself mentioned a language has many dialects, you want a state for each dialect?
--> I didnt say this too. I said that we have different dialects and so we should not say one's slang as impure.

We are not fighting on the basis of language. We are fighting on the basis of regional backwardness, injustice and inequality, and historical state with rights and natural access to our resources.

9. KCR is a total gimmick freak who aims for authority, do you know his personal history? Just dig more into it dude.
--> Exactly. I totally agree with you in this regard. Yes, i know his personal history and daily activities too :).
--> He is a gimmick freak, opportunist , power seeker. So is every politician
It is not mandatory that we will elect him as CM if Telangaana comes. We will have elections dude. Again same congress, tdp, trs....blah blah blah
We have two choices.
1. Andhra gimmick freak, opportunist , power seekers
2. Telangaana gimmick freak, opportunist , power seekers
We choose Telangaana gimmick freak, opportunist , power seekers becasue we cannot impact AP CM to give us water, but we can definitely demand our Telangana state CM to give us water. Got it now??



10 . If true Telangana exists it does in the blood of the people and their deeds.
--> Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Thanks a million ton for saying this wonderful statement


11.Let's stay together, unite and fight all miseries together.

--> Provide us water and give our jobs back, we will drop the movement immediately. What say?
--> We have experienced false promises and cunning treatments all these years.
--> Not even single committee recommendations and agreements have ever been implemented for telangaana in 50 years.
--> We have waited enough for 50 years expecting that someone will solve our issues. But enough is enough
--> Andhraites have left us with no choice other than telangaana. We are desperate. It is about survival , existence and self respect.
-- > 10 lakhs migrations from Mahabubnagar district alone. Imagine the magnitude of plight and situation once.


Jai Telangaana thalli
Jai Telugu Talli.
Jai Bharaath maata

ramc said...

Hey Mahesh,

Awesome Awesome, people who say why Telangana - i have given ur link. They will not have any questions. Coming from the place where Krsihna enters into our state(Telangana) i am pretty obliged to see a separate state. Man u are also helping this issue in a delighted way. Go ahead dude. Even i am also penning down some of the issues and my opinion in my blog.

RajGopal Reddy said...

Mahesh... Couldn't agree more. This is a fine attempt to make things clear for all those who jump to conclusions.

What everyone needs to understand abt Telangana... my take few months
back http://tinyurl.com/ya72fq5
Do let me know how you find it

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Ramc

Welcome to wisdomism...
Thanks a lottt for your support, encouragement, pat and participation in the movement.....I am looking forward for your writings...let me know once you write...

Jai Telangaana
Jai Jai Telangaana
Mana Telangaana koti ratanaala veena

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ RajGopal Reddy

Welcome to Wisdomism....
Yeah...you are correct.....people have just conclusions with their prejudices and bias rather than looking at facts of injustices and exploitation.
Thanks for your encouraging pat....
Will read ur blog...
Thanks aagain

Jai Telangaana
Jai Jai Telangaana
Mana Telangaana koti ratanaala veena

Anonymous said...

Just for the sake of jobs you want to negate other two regions of the state. Then I need separate state for even my mandal then I will get gazetted cadre job in my mandal now itself at the age of 25

kingarthur said...

hey mahesh!!!
seprate states cannot be a solution... hyderabad was worse than a lot of indian cities a decade ago. today we are on par with delhi and banglore... the state on the whole will develop and it will take time...
look at other atates we are a lot better lot.
united we stand man!!!
and hyderabad is what it is because of every person who has ever step foot in this great and beautiful city!!!
it belongs to everyone!!!

Anonymous said...

Just for your jobs you want to negate the other regions of the state. YOU ARE MAKING ME AS FORIEGNER IN MY COUNTRY. Shame on you people. JUST FOR YOUR JOBS.

Anonymous said...

DIRTY POLITICS OF SEPARATISM. No one can prosper just by being separate. Just by negating others. This is all logic. A scope for new comer politicians.

Anonymous said...

@anonymous

Good that you have commented.
Brother, this struggle is not only for jobs but for many reasons.
It would be proper if you use good words but not like SHAME.
And if you say so, then have shame on yourself and leave this place.

Yes, the pain can only be known when you face it. You people never understand it. Even after reading whole article also you people are unable to understand the issue. Huh Shame on you!!!

I used the word SHAME because you used it first. So, be careful next time.

Thank you!

SUJENDRA said...

ur writing abt telengana is very much convincing(any body), but hte fact remains.me too belong to mahabub nagar(ieeja).do u knw geographical position of godavari, we can not build projects on our telengana region.if we separate where we store krishna water, did jurala has enough storage(only 8-10 TMC)after that it goes to srisailam which will fall under rayalaseema.if we separate will sagar dam get water. now only we r fighting for water, after separation wat will be the situation.in my village in ieeja mandal(gadwal) we our selfs fight for RDS canal water.
i agree that telengana is ignored and not developed for decades but separate state is not the solution for our problem.
did any telengana leader tried to develop their own constituencies inspite elected for every time.
if separate state is formed , do u think dat our sates of living going to change, NO again these leaders will only work for eating , we will nt develop for surely. i am nt telling with out stastical reasons. before this i my self met many of educated people and my self is an MCA graduate from osmania . see brohter we shud nt think of separate state rather how to make development with unity.

if any comments pls mail me

thanks
sujendra

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ All SHAME Anonymous samaikyandhrites

1.Just for the sake of jobs you want to negate other two regions of the state. Then I need separate state for even my mandal then I will get gazetted cadre job in my mandal now itself at the age of 25

--> Have some sense when you compare a mandal and an ex -state.
Immature , baseless, foolish argument

--> 1. Have you read "Gentlemen's agreement" " of 1956 ?
2. Have you read "SRC Report"?
3. Do you know what is 610 GO?
4. Do you know why "Jai Andhra" started in 1972?
5. Do you know what is Telangana.?
6. Do you know what are Hyderabad Mulki Rules. ?

--> Moreover do learn to use decent language.

2. Just for your jobs you want to negate the other regions of the state. YOU ARE MAKING ME AS FORIEGNER IN MY COUNTRY. Shame on you people. JUST FOR YOUR JOBS.

--> Hello Indian....what happened to your shame and your indianness when you demended separate andhra from chennai state for the sake of jobs?
--> what happened to your shame and your indianness when you have started Jai Andhra in 1972?
--> what happened to your shame and your indianness when your Sriramulugaaru didnt ask for telangaana in 1953?
--> Let me clear ur dumbness.
Water and resources are our rights..
India has single citizenship....
Telangana is a state not a nation...
Telangana was a state from 1948-1956

-->what happened to your shame and your indianness when you have been making us as FORIEGNERs IN our own COUNTRY and own region since 50 years?

--> what happened to your shame and your indianness when you have joined us in 1956 for the sake of our prosperity and money??

--> what happened to your shame and your indianness when you have been storing our water from the dams on our land??

-->what happened to your shame and your indianness when not even single agreement/recommendations were never implemented in 50 years?

--> Finally what happened to your shame and your indianness when you have asked such an highly immature, ridiculous, absurd, meaningless, mean, selfish, baseless, cunning, ignorant question inspite of explaining you all the facts

I think now you got who should have the SHAME.
If you really have some self respect, respond to my queries with some facts, figures, statistics and truths. I will reply you.

Jai Telangaana
Jai Bharath Maatha

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Anonymous of Separatism..

1. DIRTY POLITICS OF SEPARATISM. No one can prosper just by being separate. Just by negating others. This is all logic. A scope for new comer politicians.

--> We are not trying to become prosper .
--> We want our rights, our resources
--> It is all about our survival and existence.
--> We want our self respect and identity.

-->DIRTY POLITICS OF SEPARATISM

Yes. you are correct buddy. I agree with you.
--> The same DIRTY POLITICS OF SEPARATISM have separated you from Chennai in 1953
--> The same DIRTY POLITICS OF SEPARATISM have made you to ask us to join with you to form AP in 1956
--> The same DIRTY POLITICS OF SEPARATISM have demanded separate Andhra in 1972.
--> The same DIRTY POLITICS OF SEPARATISM have stopped us from having our Telangaana in 1969

--> We are not negating you. we are complementing and comprehending ourselves.

--> What happened to the factor of Negation when you have been negating us since 50 years???

--> How did AP prsoper by getting separated from Chennai state??

--> I agree with you, It is a new scope for new politicians ans we want that.

--> We are tired enough from Andhra politicians. We want new politicians to exploit us. Ok Now buddy?
--> We have two choices.
1. Andhra filthy politics
2. Telangaana filthy politics
We choose Telangaana leaders becasue we cannot impact AP CM to give us water, but we can definitely demand our Telangana state CM to give us water. Got it now?? OK ??

Answer my queries with rational points and facts.
Just venting anger doesnt work.

Anyways,
> 1. Have you read "Gentlemen's agreement" " of 1956 ?
2. Have you read "SRC Report"?
3. Do you know what is 610 GO?
4. Do you know why "Jai Andhra" started in 1972?
5. Do you know what is Telangana.?
6. Do you know what are Hyderabad Mulki Rules. ?

The uniqueness about Andhra pradesh is that it was formed by the combination of two states (Hyderabad and Andhra). Andhra was formed in 1953. Hyderabad was an independent state from 1948 to 1956. AP was formed on the promises of 1956 Gentleman's agreement . We are asking our state back.

--> YES. It is all Logic. Thanks for agreeing. When your exploitation is logic, our movement is also logic.
Good point. thanks :)

Read them and come back to me.
Are you ready?
This time write your name. Feel good to talk about your region. You are not doing a mistake in asking me.
Write your name buddy. It is not a crime.

Jai Telangaana

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ kingarthur


1. seprate states cannot be a solution

--> Then why did we had separated from Chennai state in 1953
--> We are not separating. We are claiming our existing state back.
The uniqueness about Andhra pradesh is that it was formed by the combination of two states (Hyderabad and Andhra). Andhra was formed in 1953. Hyderabad was an independent state from 1948 to 1956. AP was formed on the promises of 1956 Gentleman's agreement . We are asking our state back as not even single agreement/recommendations were never implemented in 50 years. We were united based on CONDITIONS . So when the conditions have never met since 1956, you have left us no choice other than separation state.

1. hyderabad was worse than a lot of indian cities a decade ago. today we are on par with delhi and banglore... the state on the whole will develop and it will take time...
--> The issue is not about hyderabad. It is about 10 distrcts of telangaana. What about them? Hyderabad is developed, but they remained underdeveloped.
--> Hyderabad development is not telangaana development
--> Mahabubnagar have 10 lakh labour migrations inspite of 25% Krishna waters.
--> Nalgonda has fluorosis since decades inspite of Nagarjuna sagar dam present in the distrist
--> What do you say? Development??

3. united we stand man!!!

--> Yes, united we stand... and
we stand upon someones struggle for existence and survival,
we stand upon someones water and resources,
we stand upon exploitation and , cheating, plundering and injustice since decades

4. hyderabad is what it is because of every person who has ever step foot in this great and beautiful city!!!
it belongs to everyone!!!

--> If people claim a city in which they are inhabituated since 50 years , what about the claims of the people who have been living here since 400 years??
What do you say?
Yes , it belongs to everyone. We are not becoming two nations sir. It is a state separation. Anyone can still live here. Only the government machinery will be shifted.
Hyderabad not only have andhraites, but also many north indians since a century.

--> What about the Mulki rules and 610 GO sir and 6 zones implementation??

5. the state on the whole will develop and it will take time...

--> How much time sir?
--> Is 50 years not enough?
--> How come we cam believe you where you have not fulfilled single promise in 50 years??
--> Provide us our livelihood and survival, we will stop the movement.


We have waited enough for 50 years...
we dont have choice.
So only movement

Jai Telangaana

Sujendra said...

ur writing abt telengana is very much convincing(any body), but hte fact remains.me too belong to mahabub nagar(ieeja).do u knw geographical position of godavari, we can not build projects on our telengana region.if we separate where we store krishna water, did jurala has enough storage(only 8-10 TMC)after that it goes to srisailam which will fall under rayalaseema.if we separate will sagar dam get water. now only we r fighting for water, after separation wat will be the situation.in my village in ieeja mandal(gadwal) we our selfs fight for RDS canal water.
i agree that telengana is ignored and not developed for decades but separate state is not the solution for our problem.
did any telengana leader tried to develop their own constituencies inspite elected for every time.
if separate state is formed , do u think dat our sates of living going to change, NO again these leaders will only work for eating , we will nt develop for surely. i am nt telling with out stastical reasons. before this i my self met many of educated people and my self is an MCA graduate from osmania . see brohter we shud nt think of separate state rather how to make development with unity.

if any comments pls mail me

thanks
sujendra

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Sujendra...

Thanks a lott......
Very good analysis....
I do appreciate your feedback with rational points, relevant issues and valid questions...
The best comment on this post till now....
I have some corrections and opinions for you buddy.

1. we can not build projects on our telengana region

--> We can indeed build projects in telangaana. May I know on what scientific basis you have said this?

Because We have
# Sriram Sagar (Nizamabad)

--> We have Nizamsagar in Nizamabad

2. .if we separate where we store krishna water, did jurala has enough storage(only 8-10 TMC)

--> You are correct. I do agree with you. Am impressed with your statistical approach.
Have you ever got the doubt why they have not increased the dam height while construction???

--> Why dont we have Jurala canals spreaded in entire Mahabubnagar?
--> Why dont they use Lift irrigation for Jurala Water??

--> Still we have a chance to buid a new project between Jurala and Srisailam or before Jurala....or in between Srisailam and Sagar....

--> If Israel can cultivate crops in deserts, why cant we do that with rivers and advanced irrigation-al facilities?

--> If a private organisation called satya sai water project can bring drinking water from krishna to mahabubnagar through pipes, why cant a state govt provide irrigational facilities to the same place?. Think once? .Isnt it feasible?

--> I guess you heard about Lift Irrigation (though it is not best idea, we have to follow for some years until we get self sustainable)

If we have will, we will definitely get many ways to reach the end.

3. now only we are fighting for water, after separation what will be the situation.

--> Not only at RDS canal, we do fight at tankers and public taps(AP or Telangana).... its not about minor petty issues. It is all about the exploitation vs Justice and Rights.

--> Water disputes will definitely arise no matter whether you are in telangana or AP. My intention is that we should have right to raise our voice heard in solving these disputes, major or minor. A new state will give us that bargaining authority and command .

--> Though we have problems of telangana and andhra issues, you are saying that we should stay united. Right?
I ask you one thing buddy.
Why cant we stay united in Telangana state though we have problems/disputes of RDS canal/ xyz canal etc???
Why dont you think in that way?

4. i agree that telengana is ignored and not developed for decades but separate state is not the solution for our problem.

--> Very valid point.
--> What is the solution then?
--> Tell me how telangana will be developed in united AP ??

--> How come they can develop us now if they have not done in 50 years?

--> Give me one valid , practical solution. I will shout for "Samaikyaandhra" immediately. Many committees on telangana were constituted, but not even single recommendation was implemented since 1956.

--> We are left with no choice.... It is like choosing the best worst thing

--> What else do you expect from the people who have Government, business, money and key administrative machinery are in their hands??

--> Mere words, ideas and concepts do not solve the questions of survival and existence


5. did any telengana leader tried to develop their own constituencies in-spite of elected for every time.

--> I agree with you.
--> Are you sure that all the telengana leader will definitely try to develop their own constituencies in-spite of elected for every time if we stay united as AP ??? Answer this.

--> We have two choices.
1. Andhra gimmick freak, opportunist , power seekers
2. Telangaana gimmick freak, opportunist , power seekers

We choose Telangaana gimmick freak, opportunist , power seekers becasue we cannot impact AP CM to give us water, but we can definitely demand our Telangana state CM to give us water. Got it now??

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Sujendra

continue....

6.if separate state is formed , do u think dat our sates of living going to change, NO again these leaders will only work for eating ,

--> I agree with you again
--> Yes, you are correct. They work for eating. But to eat they need some projects/programmes/schemes right??

Ex: To eat thousands of crores they have to built a dam across godavari or Krishna which will obviously help us(Compulsion)
What say??
I mean all our money will be circulated and spent in Telangaana only inspite of heavy eating.


--> Will you reject the united AP just because every Politician in AP is eating?

--> Eating is common across India, including our united AP

7. we will not develop for surely

--> Will we develop for surely if we remain as one state ? What say ?

8. we should not think of separate state rather how to make development with unity.
--> Could you please elaborate what should we do to make for development with unity? I will try to understand them and I will propagate if they appeal me.
--> Pompous sayings, lofty ideals, abstract plans will do nothing, rather, they give advantage to the people who are dominating and exploiting us.
--> Moreover we are not separating as nations, we are becoming two states for administrative convenience as two regions are poles apart from each other culturally, historically, geographically and economically.

9. my self is an MCA graduate from osmania

--> I really appreciate your thinking and approach for one state, particularly your genuine concern for Telangana development and well being

-->
1. Have you read "Gentlemen's agreement" " of 1956 ?
2. Have you read "SRC Report"?
3. Do you know what is 610 GO?
4. Do you know why "Jai Andhra" started in 1972?
5. Do you know what is Telangana.?
6. Do you know what are Hyderabad Mulki Rules. ?

Also,
1. May I know your opinion about our slang, language, culture, identity and self respect which have been getting humiliated in mass media and literature since decades??

2. One more doubt.
In your total comments, you have approached optimistically towards united AP issues and pessimistically towards separate Telangana issues. Why?
Why didnt you stand against exploitation and injustices?

3. Please approach those educated people once again and reply me with further facts and analysis. Also think and let me know hat should be done make development with unity(as you said)

I am expecting a balance of approach next time towards the issue of separation. Statistics and figures are most welcome.

Thanks verrrrry much for your time and analysis. Keep expressing your doubts and concerns on Telangaana

Telangaaana needs people like you....particularly for Mahabubnagar.

Thanks again :)

Jai Telangaana
Jai Bharath Maata

SUJENDRA said...

1.Why dont we have Jurala canals spreaded in entire Mahabubnagar?
Why dont they use Lift irrigation for Jurala Water??
-->u may be knowing dat sarrounding areas of mahaboon nagar like jadcherla,shad nagar etc are located in much hieght than jurala dam, it very difficult
to lift the water for the purpose of irrigation . u also may be knowing that , if we distribute water thru canals 90% of water will be distributed only to areas right side to canal, left side area will not be given water(after consulting irrigation officer of RDS canal) .

2. May I know your opinion about our slang, language, culture, identity and self respect which have been getting humiliated in mass media and literature since decades?
-->u only told dat every region has its own dialect, then frm where this "our language is impure" comes.every one understands wat we talk and speak.
coming to humilation in mass media, may be in our region penetration(not now) of media(TV, news) is some wat low compare to andhra region so they may select their accent. dnt u know we too have our literature and famous poets like Dasarathi rangacharya,jashuva,C narayana reddy.

3.Have you ever got the doubt why they have not increased the dam height while construction???
-->jurala dam is joint construction of govt of Ap and karnataka. some power goes to karnataka and water to mahaboob nagar district.
4. If Israel can cultivate crops in deserts, why cant we do that with rivers and advanced irrigation-al facilities?
-->wat is the size of israel and population.
5. Have you read "Gentlemen's agreement" " of 1956 ?. Have you read "SRC Report"? Do you know what is 610 GO? Do you know why "Jai Andhra" started in 1972? Do you know what is Telangana.? Do you know what are Hyderabad Mulki Rules. ?
--> really speaking , i dnt knw much of these but know wat is and wat they meant to. when did GO 610 came did any body asked abt dat till now. did KCR asked abt 610 when he is in power.he joined in govt. after agreeing to SRC(congress election manifesto) which is 2nd one.

6.we cannot impact AP CM to give us water, but we can definitely demand our Telangana state CM to give us water??
-->can u elobarate it pls. will there be stable govt? will there be enough funds?

from past 6 yrs it is the telengana region which is getting more funds for water related projects.

after all i agree to the exploitation of andhra and rayalseema people.but how come separate state could be the answer to all ?
if we get separated also dnt u think, they will only rule us like sonia and manmohan.

Tell me in ur view, what we should do in case of hyderabad beacause many of settlers poured thier money to develop hyderabad, if they ask for compensation or something worth for their investment wat we shud do?

am doing job presently.
may i know ur native place

thanks for ur information(src,610)

Sujendra SK(sk.sujendra@gmail.com)

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Sujendra...


1. u may be knowing dat sarrounding areas of mahaboon nagar like jadcherla,shad nagar etc are located in much hieght than jurala dam, it very difficult
--> am talking about Makthal, Devarakadra and Narayanpet areas which are almost at river level
--> If a private organisation called satya sai water project can bring drinking water from krishna to Makthal, and Narayanpet through pipes, why cant a state govt with crores of budget provide irrigational facilities to the same place?

2. to lift the water for the purpose of irrigation . u also may be knowing that , if we distribute water thru canals 90% of water will be distributed only to areas right side to canal, left side area will not be given water(after consulting irrigation officer of RDS canal) .
--> Good point
--. Thats what my concern is ..... If we can get Telangana state , we can appeal for our share in
The Krishna Water Disputes Tribunal (KWDT) ,
please read...


Inter - State River Water Disputes Act 1956

(Inter-State River Water Disputes Act (33 of 1956 )).



3. u only told dat every region has its own dialect, then frm where this "our language is impure" comes.every one understands wat we talk and speak.
-->I didnt say that, infact, i countered it. I think its a communication gap between u and me. Let me clarify.

I said that "Andhraites say that our telangana telugu language is impure and hybrid"
So, i questioned them by saying that "In the 23 districts of AP , each district has got different slang/dialect. On what basis and criteria you say that one slang is pure/impure. Just because people from one district entered the print/electronic media first and used their language, does it become pure? ". Got my point buddy??

So i wrote this point to answer those people who say that all telugu people should stay united as one state. Got it now??

4. dnt u know we too have our literature and famous poets like Dasarathi rangacharya,jashuva,C narayana reddy.

-->Please dont go for your own assumptions that i know nothing. Am not that much dumb buddy.
--> I am an ardent follower of Telugu Literature
--> Its not that i dont know them. I am done with reading Dasarathi rangacharya,jashuva,C narayana reddy, kancha illaiah, and major telangaana literature
--> I am talking about the usage of telangana language in mainstream media, electronic media and print media besides the ridiculing by the media domain. What do you say. ?
--> Have you read about Bathukamma and Sammakka sarakka in your school textbooks??
--> Separate state provide you a platform for promoting and preservation of our language and culture in medium and media.



5. jurala dam is joint construction of govt of Ap and karnataka. some power goes to karnataka and water to mahaboob nagar district.
--> same answer of point 2 (refer answer to point 2 in this comment)


6. wat is the size of israel and population.
--> Israel : Population 74,65,000 ; size : 22072 sq.km
--> Telangana Population 3.5 crores; size : 1 .14 lakh sq km
source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#Geography_and_climate
So telangana have 4 times more population and 5 times more land than Israel.

7. did any body asked abt dat till now. did KCR asked abt 610 when he is in power
--> It is baseless saying that no one talked about 610. Its been in news and agitattions for years.
--> Am not supporting KCR. I agree with you. Telangaana movement is of 50 years old.
--> Am here for the students who are fighting for a separate state not for any political strides and sides. Am supporting on behalf of farmers of Telangaana.
--> Even if we take your words, just becasue we didnt talk about injustice earlier, should we stop talking about it forever ???

(Continue.........)

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Sujendra


.......Continue


8 . will there be stable govt? will there be enough funds?

--> Out of the 35 states currently in India (28 states and 7 UTs), 70% are smaller than Telangana. Telangana’s population is 30 million plus. There are 25 states that are smaller than Telangana in population. (Please Check @ http://cyberjournalist.org.in/census/cenindia.html)
--> If such states can manage their own funds with stable governments since decades. Why the doubts on telangaana only ??
Prejudice and bias???
Filling your assumptions buddy??

Funds: In AP telangaana people are not sitting idle buddy. They are earning too along with Remaaning AP and contributing to AP Revenue significantly. We will pay the taxes and by them the govt will run. It is quite natural and happening everywhere. I dont understand what complexity you found in funds issue of Telangaana.
Telangaana revenue : 8943 crores
AP Revenue : 13143 crores
Now calculate the percentage of telangana revenue in AP revenue.

--> After separation all the revenue of AP will be divided between Telangaana and Andhra

9. from past 6 yrs it is the telengana region which is getting more funds for water related projects.
--> When you have a massive programme like Jalayagnam, it’s difficult to relate to its scope unless you realise that its benefits are going to reach your village or town. For one thing, the numbers involved in Jalayagnam are huge, even mind-boggling: just the ongoing major irrigation projects are going to cost Rs 155561.23 crore.

If you add to this the cost of medium projects, flood bank work, modernization and contemplated projects, you are talking about 182517.27 crore. That’s about 20% of India’s annual budget.Some 81 projects – 43 major, 28 medium and 10 modernisation works – are being attempted at one go. When the programme is completed, some 11498354 acres of irrigation acreage will be created. Big numbers.

Is it feasible? 20 % of indian budget.... practical? .....Think once?
They look good on paper dude....
I will give you dist wise details if you want.


10 but how come separate state could be the answer to all ?
--> Hmmm....... Self Governance buddy. Need to say more?
All the policies and laws have to be designed to suit the telangaana needs. There is no choice here. They have to do inspite of eating, corruption and all.. They will be cornered.

11. if we get separated also dnt u think, they will only rule us like sonia and manmohan.

--> Irrespective of whether you are in AP or Telangaana or punjab, you will be ruled by sonia and manmohan. , you will see corruption, caste system, scams, crime, violence, politics, blag blah blah. But with new state you will get your rights and access to your resources.
Clear now??

I dont understand why you are talking about the obvious and common points to all states of india.
Why dont you raise the same question and same points regarding the united AP?
I am repeating buddy. In your total comments, you have approached optimistically towards united AP issues and pessimistically towards separate Telangana issues. WHY ??

12. Tell me in ur view, what we should do in case of hyderabad beacause many of settlers poured thier money to develop hyderabad, if they ask for compensation or something worth for their investment wat we shud do?
--> Yes, we should compensate them. And in return we will get state of the art infrastructure at that instant.

13 .am doing job presently.
may i know ur native place
--> Good to hear that you are doing job
--> Am from mana palamoor (Mahabubnagar local)

14. May i know why did you skip answering some questions in between??

I am waiting for your rational and objective answers this time

Madhu | INDImag.com said...

Mahesh,
You have put your views across laden with a wealth of information.

The daylight looting of their very own by politicians and the apathy toward Telengaana region is heart wrenching, but the same is true in very many regions -- North Karnataka for instance that borders Andhra is a vastly neglected region and has similar (not as vocal demands for a separate state).

We definitely need to ensure we take care of these regions and give them their due ; but separate states may set a bad precedent. I would support separate states if it would make it better but given our rotten polity it will be a far cry.

In Karnataks for instance we have Coorg wanting to be a separate state, so does North Karnataka, so does Tulu Nadu ; Belgaum wants to go to Maharashtra ; Now we have started a row on Hogenakal ; Mantralayam and it's Kannada speaking population rears it's head from time to time. I'm afraid a precedent of separate states will kick off a chain reaction of demainds and protests..

Having said the above I would be lying if I did not acknowledge the angst of the Telengaana people who have been subjected to step motherly treatment that has resulted in the current day situation..

satyam truth always said...

Your comments are good.
A few facts of history if you are interested
Do you know which city was called Andhra nagara(city)even in 15th century?Warangal,then called Orugallu
The word Trilinga comes from the three lingas,Kaleswaram(telengana)Srisailam(rayalaseema) and Drakshamaram(coastal Andhra).The entire state would have had political,economic and cultural affinity but for the selfish and inefficient ryle of Nizam.
The word lekka was used for money in Warangal in 15th century.Some villagers in coastal districts still use it in that meaning.
Where are the differences?
Anyway the correct word should be Telungana. Telengana has Urdu influence
Sathya Palanki

satyam truth always said...

Your article is good.
A little history if you are interested.
Do you know the city which was referred to as Andhra nagara(city) even in 15th century?
Well,it is Warangal,then called Orugallu.
The word Trilinga comes from the three lingas,Kaleswaram(Telangan)Srisailam(Rayalaseema) and Draksharamam(coastal Andhra).
The entire state would have had the same political,economic and cultural affinity but for Nizam's selfish and inefficient rule
Sathya Palanki

satyam truth always said...

Your article is good.
A little history if you are interested.
Do you know the city which was referred to as Andhra nagara(city) even in 15th century?
Well,it is Warangal,then called Orugallu.
The word Trilinga comes from the three lingas,Kaleswaram(Telangan)Srisailam(Rayalaseema) and Draksharamam(coastal Andhra).
The entire state would have had the same political,economic and cultural affinity but for Nizam's selfish and inefficient rule
Sathya Palanki

Anonymous said...

If you go back into the history,even during the 15 the century, the word andhra nagaram existed and it is now called Warangal(Orugallu)
The word Trilinga is derived from the Siva temples in Kaleswaram in Telangana,Draksharamam in Coastla Andhra, Srisailam in Rayalaseema. These three areas had common culture.The Nizam's inefficient rule was responsible the division ceded,circar and nizam.
The word lekka is sitll in vogue in villages for payment of money.The word is found in the book"Kreedabhiramam "of the 15th century
Sathya Palanki

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Sathya Palanki

Welcome to Wisdomism.
Thanks a lot for your time and value addition through your comments and significant contribution of genuine information.

I am not sure whether you gave these comments in favour or against my point of language. So, i would like to explain few things, in case you got me in other perspective.

--> Yea, I do know about the evolution of both words "Telangana" and "Andhra" as I had studies during my General studies AP History preparation.

--> My intention was not to prove that real Telugu land is only Telangana, but, to say that the region of Telangana is equal to the region of Andhra for the identity of Telugu speaking people, their culture and literature.

--> The context in which i wrote was my answer to all those people who view telangana dialect/slang as impure. It was my clarification towards the misnomer.

--> Any further feedback will be most welcomed.

cheers
mahesh kalaal

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Madhu...

Thanks a ton for the recognition, compassion and acknowledgement of the plight of Telanganites. I am pleased by your genuine, sincere and heartfelt response. I would like to give some explanation.

You said "We definitely need to ensure we take care of these regions and give them their due"....

--> Separate state is the last option we have before us, like a necessary evil.
--> We have seen enough Commitess , agreements, promises, plans, packages, schemes, since 1956. Literally, not even single word has been implemented till now. What else we can do.? As you said , the thought that we will get justice by staying united in AP, is at horizons because, given our rotten polity it will be a far cry.

We never got our due in 50 years.

--> We have two choices
1. Rotten polity of AP
2. Rotten polity of Telangaana

We choose the second one as we will definitely have edge over the first one

--> Also I would like to reassert that we are not asking for a new state, rather, we are asking for an existed state of hyderabad (1948-56)

--> I am not undermining the issues of Karnataka(am from Gulbarga dist), but , i would like to say there is a significant and substantial(political, historical, cultural, social, economical aspects) difference between telangaana and other state demands.
The identity and self respect are also one of the factors.


--> Telangana will not be a small state
as out of the 28 states and 7 UTs currently in India , 70% are smaller than Telangana. Telangana’s population is 30 million plus. There are 25 states that are smaller than Telangana in population.

--> I do agree with you that separate states may set a bad precedent. Yes you are absolutely correct. What else we can do in the situation of intense injustices and ruthless exploitation since decades ? It is matter of survival of millions of farmers.

-->If govt denies us telangana. It is like a saying "" mother neither gives food nor allows her kid to beg(fight in our case) ""

-->If the govt can assure us something substantial pragmatic solution for the plight of telangaana, I will be the first person to shout for United AP

Thanks a lotttttttttttttttttttt for your support and empathy ......

PS: Madhu, please do not take this discussion as personal. I wrote this post on behalf of millions of hapless farmers who cant raise their voices against the state sponsored exploitation. I hope you understand my intention.
I have replied your responses keeping in mind that many readers will be addressed on the same issues.

Anonymous said...

Ur really super....
I think every one from this country should see this article.....

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Super Anonymous

Thanks for the josh.....
i wish everyone from AP will read, if not from the Nation...
Thanks again:)

It could have been better if you had written your name.......

Raghav said...

Congrats, Brother!!!!!

Madhu | INDImag.com said...

@Mahesh,
No buddy, not taking it personal :-) , because what you say has to be said and I am not even in disagreement with you. My lament is at the sad state of affairs(like gross step-motherly treatment to Telengaanaites) by our rabid politicians that pushes people to their end.

Like you said, given promises of justice and equality that will be kept, you are not opposed to 'United AP'. I'm sure there are many like you. Instead of pursuing a logical, standing solution our politicians are playing dirty politics..

At the end of the day, I do wish the best for Telengaana and it's oppressed people ..

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Raghava
Thanks a lotttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt for your wishes....

Yours being the lengthiest comment and best first wishful congrats on this blog...

The movie has started jus now.........lets wait until the end for the festival

am controlling myself from cheering and catcries.....

Hpefully JAI TELANGANA

JAI TELANGANA
JAI TELANGANA
JAI TELANGANA
JAI TELANGANA
JAI TELANGANA

santosh said...

At last our efforts worked and tomorrow there will be resolution in state assembly. HURRAY!!!

This win is for all Telangaanites especially KCR and students.

This win is the first step on injustice and exploitation.

Definetly, Good always wins on bad and its proved.


JAI TELANGANA ... JAI JAI TELANGANA

Dheeraj said...

Mahesh,

I congratulate on your take on this topic and on all other topics. I became a big fan of yours.

Just now, I saw the news that the Center says 'YES' to Telangana. I am just skeptical (or insecure) about this. May be this is just a thing to buy some time in the name of assembly debate. Or I might be just ignorant of the process.

Anyway, keep the good work, and also, please post few links of the NGOs you are associated with. I will try our best from whatever I can.

Thanks
Dheeraj

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ MAdhu
@ Santhosh

Thanks a bunch as its a victory time...

there is always a slip between the lip n d cup
anything can happen
it may take a year also
its not absolute victory yet
its the first step of victory...

Jai Telangaana

santosh said...


Telangaana gadda meeda chandamamayyo oraa chandamamayya..!!!



Jai Telangaana...!!!
Naa Telangaana Koti Ratanaala Veena

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Dheeraj

Thanks a ton for your perfumed words that made me quite humble. Heavy adjectives from you.
The credit goes to wisdomism.

Yes, it is not absolute victory yet .....anything can happen
it may take a year also
its the first step of victory...
Lets wait for the best.


Thanks a ton for your initiative to participate and contribute towards the better society.

You can contribute to
http://firstrayfoundation.org/
http://yaminifoundation.org/
www.hope-forneedy.org

Thanks again

Jai Telangaana :)

Mana Telangaana Koti Ratanaala Veena :)

Jai Hind :)

Dheeraj said...

Mahesh,

Thanks for the links.

Also, I apologize if my post overwhelmed you. But, I really liked your blog. I started referring people to your post instead of me trying to convince them on the topic.

Let's hope for the best on Telangana.

Thanks
Dheeraj

Anonymous said...

Dude, this was an awesome post..thanks for spending time to write about facts and truth..on the whole a very well written blog. When my cousin sent me the link to your blog, I was a bit hesitant to read but when I read I was impressed by the accuracy, fyi, my Dad was D.C.E for a major irrigation project on Godavari and whenever he told me stories abt exploitation of water resources by unscrupulous Andhra politicians, my blood used to boil b'coz I cldn't do anything abt it, but now with a separate state in sight, I think we can solve those water problems. Lets hope for the best. Jai Telangana!
-S

Anonymous said...

http://umeshvarmap.blogspot.com/2009/12/telangana-land-of-destiny-or-mirage.html

umesh_varma@yahoo.com

palanki said...

Dear Mahesh
You may consider me cynical, but I amnot sure the lot of an ordinaryman 'aam aadmi' irespective of an integrated/separate state. In view of the development of Union govt starting the process of separation
my comment is redundant
palanki

Rajkumar Palnati said...

hi mahesh anna jai telangaana u r blog is nice.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Umesh

Welcome to wisdomism...
That was a very balanced, analytical, rational and objective article you have written...
Will comment there soon...
waiting for ur future posts..

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Raj

Yo dude yo
Yo Telangaana Yo....

Jai Telangaana...!!!
Mana Telangaana Koti Ratanaala Veena

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Anonymous

Thanks for your response and the pat with apt and valid reason...
You revered dad is verry much correct in saying the truth.....
Yes, hoping for sooner telangaana to solve the water crisis soon so that we can have greener Telangaana....
May i know your name please??

Seenu said...

Good job dude. Even though Im cynical about the consequences after the separate state is carved out, there is a slam-dunk thing thats gonna happen..atleast we will be able to use our resources let alone the building of new projects. And this small thing will make a huge difference to 35 million ppl. Now with the internet proliferation, most of the students even from the Hyderabad city has come to know the reason for the agitation and separate statehood demand and Im happy abt that. But Im quite disappointed when people neither from telangana nor andhra see the separate statehood demand as a political stunt (forgetting abt students agitation) and in the same way being projected in the media. Telangana is being compared with gorkhaland, bundelkhand or vidharbha, but I see there cannot be any comparision because of the facts that ours is a struggle from decades for the restoration of cultural identity and putting halt on exploitation.

what do u think?

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Seenu...

Perfectly said and it is absolute truth.
I do totally agree with every alphabet you said...
Yeah, many people (graduates too) dont know the factors, history and uniqueness behind our telangaana struggle....
It is not only about backwardness but primarily it is about our right to fight against Injustice and Exploitation.

Thanks again :)

Jai Telangaana...!!!
Mana Telangaana Koti Ratanaala Veena

Anonymous said...

Good points. I agree with you that some districts have always been neglected when it comes to development. Why do you think that is?
It is the responsibility of the politician representing that region to get more projects to his constituency and help in development.
Has it every been done. I wonder if KCR ever even tried to bring more funds to Mahabubnagar, try to bring any new projects, introduce
any new schemes? Guess we will never hear of them huh?? One thing we hear is a separate state!!!

If a government does its job rite in providing basic eminences and developing its state, do you really think we would even have this discussion?
The fight should be for a better government. We should question the motives of politicians, question their working. People don't know their
rights, educate people. Since we cant achieve none of those we want a separate state. We just want some other politicians to loot us and use
us as scape goats. Making a separate state will cause more mess about sharing water, sharing power, sharing any thing. When will we start thinking
as a nation? Don't see it remotely happening with all the break down in states.

How can we make a change?

pradeep said...

Telangana state formation day.... Nov 1st, 2010.

Jai Telangana.....

Saurabh Panshikar said...

I know a good deal of research went into the making of this post. Well written and well done.

Thanks a lot for taking time to go through my blog. In one way or other you have encouraged me to keep on blogging.
Thanks a lot!

Pratap said...

Hey Mahesh,
Facts are facts anyways..The most important thing is to provide the state with strong leader. Do you think mr.KCR will strive for the development of Telangana? If so then there is no problem. But what if he doesnt bother about development. He is a greedy person, desperate to become CM....Fight for Development not for Division.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@Pratap

Do you think mr.KCR will strive for the development of Telangana?

--> No i dont think so. Obviously he has got his vested interests . So is other leaders of AP.

--> Separate telangaana gives us the constitutional safeguards to have access to our right and resources irrespective any political party or leader

--> My concern is for all the millions of farmers who are the real sufferers in united AP.

thanks for the genuine concerns u have raised here.

Raghu said...

THANKS ANNA FOR THE VALUABLE FACTS U HAVE GIVEN . AND ONE MORE FACT WHICH I FEEL IS MORE IMPORTANT TODAY IS ABOUT SREE POTTI SREE RAMULU(I DO NOT HAVE ANY DISRESPECT TO HIM OR FOR ANY INDIAN LEADER). HE WAS DIED IN 1952 DEC 15 AFTER WHICH ANDHRA GOT DIVIDED FROM MADRAS AND MERGED WITH HYDERABAD STATE IN 1956. SO THERE IS NO LINK TO HIM TO A.P. STATE.
THIS HAS TO BE KNOWN TO MANY PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE OF TELANGANA(SOME MODERN,POSH,HI -FI, FOOLS) WHO DONT KNOW THEIR OWN HISTORY. WHO DONT KNOW KOMARAM BHEEM
WHO DONT KNOW SHRI KALOJI WHO DO NOT KNOW SHRI DASHARADHI WHO DO NOT KNOW MANY MORE

"NAA TELANGANA KOTI RATANALA VEENA"
JAI TELANGANA
JAI HIND

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Raghu

I agree with your point that Revered sri potti sri ramulu gaaru did fight for andhra(1953) and not for AP(1956) with Hyderabad state(1948)

--> Thats why i have been claiming that Telangaana state demand is not for a new state but for an already existed Hyderabad state (1948-1956)

-->Yes , many of the graduates dont know KOMARAM BHEEM, KALOJI, sardar papanna,
--> We never read about bathukamma or sammakka sarakka in our telugu text books.

thanks for your response with valid points

Jai telangaana

Anonymous said...

--> Separate telangaana gives us the constitutional safeguards to have access to our right and resources irrespective any political party or leader

Mahesh tell me how is this possible??? don't you think you are contradicting yourself? What constitutional rights are you talking about? How can separate state give us that? For your point to be true we need better government and politicians not a separate state.

--> My concern is for all the millions of farmers who are the real sufferers in united AP.

Your concern is good, but separate state is definitely not going to change any thing. Just look at 60 years of Indian Independence. Please don't kid yourself.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Anonymous...

I am happy for your rational points.

Please write your name . Too many anonymous comments make other readers confused because it is a confusion who is talking which anonymous. I hope u understand

1. Mahesh tell me how is this possible??? What constitutional rights are you talking about? How can separate state give us that?
--> Separate state gives the facility of allocation of funds by the constitutional bodies like Finance commission, Planning commission(read Article 280) whose funds have been cornered by the Andhra region

--> In india all the taxes are divided into state list , center list and concurrent list. So all the taxes we pay under state list and center list will be expensed on the telangana state only , instead of diverting them to other regions(which is happening now. Only 28% of Telangana revenue is spent out of 45% contribution to the state revenue)

. Please Read

a. SRC Report @ http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/India_States_Reorganisation_Commission_Report_Telangana_Andhra
b. Gentlemen's Agreement @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_agreement_of_Andhra_Pradesh_%281956%29

--> Being a separate we have the advantage to appeal at The Krishna Water Disputes Tribunal (KWDT) as per the Inter-State River Water Disputes Act 1956 (Constitutional)

--> Reminding you. AP(Andhra and Hyderabad) was formed under the Gentlemen's Agreement whose rules were never implemented. Nor the SRC recommendations.

2. don't you think you are contradicting yourself
--> No I am not. I mean it buddy.
--> I have written this piece of article after referring the historical, cultural, sociological, anthropological, geographical, political, constitutional aspects of ""why Telangana should be separated from AP"
--> As were a state for good 8 years (1948-56), we have been denied our share of access to the constitutional provisions since 1956 though there are many agreements/formulae/programmes/recommendations that say that telangana should get the special treatment becasue of the historical,cultural, geographical aspects .

3. For your point to be true we need better government and politicians not a separate state.
--> Yes, i can fight for better government and politicians not only in AP but also being in Telangana state also.
--> better government and politicians is true all over india. We need not apply for telangana exclusively.
--> better government and politicians , corruption, politics, ..... this pompous jargon is too abstract for a solution.
Be specific to the core. Please.

4. separate state is definitely not going to change any thin
--> Do united AP is definitely going to change any thing ? If os, Can you tell me how and in what way(Be specific please)
--> The state which could not change anything since 50 years, which do not fulfil not even a single promise since 1956 on several occasions, how come we should we believe that it will happen in coming years too???

5. My concern is for all the millions of farmers who are the real sufferers in united AP.
--> Very good. I do really appreciate that. Very few are really analysing the separate issue through farmers issue
--> Then what is the problem if separate telangaana is going to be helpful for millions of farmers in telangaana region
--> Besides, separate telangana is not going to rob other farmers perspectives. If so, please let me know in what way and how.?

6. Please don't kid yourself.
--> I dont and I wont as I am appealing from the telangana farmers perspective whom i have seen and interacted during my comprehensive case study on Telangana as an anthropologist.

##** If you Provide me the more specific , rational, valid, objective, substantial solution for telangaana farmers, I will be the first person to shout for united AP.


7. Please also read
* Mulki Rules
*. 610 GO
* 1969 Jai Telangana Movement
* 1972 Jai Andhra movement
* Hyderabad state liberation of 1948

8. Your concern is good
--> Thanks, so is yours buddy :)

Lakshmi Rajan said...

Wonderful piece of article right from the anguish, despair and the dream of people of Telengaana...

Though i am late reading it and much have happened, it still echoes the reasons of the common man of the area!

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Lakshmi Rajan

Thanks for ur time and the response....
Yes, you are correct and we are desperate for a solution.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Saurabh Panshikar

welcome to wisdomism....
Thanks a lott for your pat and encouragement....
am humbled by your words...
Thanks again

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Pratap

Please watch the video on telangana
@ http://maheshisms.blogspot.com/2009/12/telangaana.html

You do come back with your questions once you are don with the video...

thanks for ur time and the pat

Anonymous said...

Hey,Nice blog dude, being an Andhraite I always support separate Telangana, Because I have seen the situations in districts like adilabad. I know the development in those areas. Its not only the development but the desire among people. Honestly these so called 'samaikhya politicians' are internally worried about Hyderabad. Even though they are expressing United telugu,united Andhra bhla..bhla..Internally it is HYD. If you say just give us Adilabad,Warangal,Nizamabad,Kharimnagar, do these samaikhya politicians bother ? No ways.No bands, no hunger strike, every one will agree happily. There is no love or affection it is about business.
I dont know why every one one is after Hyderabad. I look at this issue on the other side. If separated, some cities in Andhra will be given priority. Like vijayawad,Vizag. These cities were not developed like Hyderabd.All the development was concentrated at Hyderabad. Universities, IT Hubs..etc. (I am not talking about water,lands..etc. its about infrastructure) Now at least there will be distribution of development. These cities will be developed.
Really nothing to do with separation for any common man (In Andhra or Rayalaseema). He is neither gaining nor loosing. If I were a software engineer in Hyd, nobody can ask me to leave Hyd. I can continue working there as if I am working in Tamilnadu or Karnataka. Whats wrong in that?.
My position is based on my work and education, not based on region and religion.

Even for rich and industrialists there is no problem. Come on man, every politician is corrupted. No exception to Telangana Govt. If you have 1000 acres in Hyd, just spend some 100 acres to politicians like KCR ,KTR or harish rao, you will be safe. If you have 100 acres spend 10 out of it. Rich are always safe. They rule every where. Dont worry Rajgopal. So just leave this drama. Let us separate. Concentrate on Vijayawada.

No need to worry about water. Telangana can not drink or store all krishna water. They have to leave some and there is always one committee for water resource management in the hands of central government.

So let us separate peacefully.Concentrate on the development. And I request not to use the words 'settlers' 'jaago','bhaago'. We are in India, these words are like for immigrants. They create a mess among common people.
All the best.
Hopefully next time when I come to India, I will get down in Vizag or Vijayawad International Airport.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Anonymous (being an Andhraite)

Soooooooooooooooooooooooper.
Am clapping for your rational and pragmatic thinking and objective approach. I totally agree with every word you said. Optimistic, Realistic and practical.
Finally it needed a matured person like you who instead of taking sides blindly, understood the issues in the correct and absolute context.....

You said "Internally it is HYD. If you say just give us Adilabad, Warangal, Nizamabad, Kharimnagar, do these samaikhya politicians bother?? ""

Perfectly said. This is my exact point i was trying to convey through my blog. Yes, it is all about Hyderabad.

I will refer your comment from now onwards if anyone have apprehensions towards telangana.....

Thanks for the pat :)

Thanks a lotttttttttttttttt for your time and analytical and responsive opinion

Please let me know ur name buddy....

Jai Telangana :) :) :)
Jai Andhra :) :) :) :)

Jai Hind :) :) :) :) :)

Anonymous said...

Recently I went to buy a T shirt. I went to a good shop. Salesman showed me the varieties. I found a T shirt. It has a nice attractive pocket. The pocket has all the facilities. I can keep a bunch of credit cards, one iPhone,etc...Very very attractive. But...but..I found that T shirt was torn at shoulders,some ugly,poor stitchings at neck. It is in worst situation. I can not wear it.But the salesman is showing me the pocket always and explaining me,trying to convince me. He tried for an hour and I was fed up and came out. I did not buy that. I was laughing at the sales man..When I came out of that shop, there was a call for bandh on the issue of Telangana...There were slogans "We develop and rule our Telangana". I was scolding...they have developed hyderabad, what else they need..selfish people..
Wait..wait..wai....WHAT?..are they selfish, if so I should go back and buy the T shirt. Why didn't I buy. Strong dispute in my mind..I have two ways now, One ,go back and buy the T shirt and scold these telangana people, second Dont buy T shirt and s.u..p.p.o..r..t Telangana..
I stood still....many questions in my mind..am I a matured person?..do I follow blindly?..Yes, when it comes to my usage,my need..I think like matured,I do thorough analysis. But when it comes to others, I f..o.l..l..o..w... blindlllly......
--
Vijay Reddy

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Vijay Reddy

Thanks for your time and analytical, rational response with much valid aspect of comprehensive thought process ...

Since decades, some people(Telangana) in AP have been buying those T shirts which were torn at shoulders,some ugly,poor stitchings at neck but has a nice attractive pocket(Hyd).

Now, Some other people(Andhra) are saying that they wont be allowed even to use that attractive pocket as that pocket is bearing their shops brand name(AP).

They would give the T-shirt but they want to snatch and separate the pocket which is located at the heart place of the T-shirt.

Neither the T-shirt nor the brand name are in no way capable of altering my career or life. But still i want to fight on behalf of all those innocent victims of injustice/exploitation who have been buying those branded T-shirts since 50 years with their hard earned money.

Jai Telangaana
Jai Hind
Mahesh Kalaal

Anonymous said...

National Congress will not decide on Telangan issue.They will say we stand for it, we need all party support.

AP congress will have two groups of MLA's and MP's but still stick together and say that is the internal democracy of congress.

Mean while central congress starts threatening KCR,Rajgopal..etc by attacking on their businesses. So KCR,Rajgopal etc will slow down their movements.

As usual Chandra babu shouts at Congress and starts repairing his party,try to unite and try to be the number one in TDP.

Chiranjeevi,will re think on their policies,frame new policies and remains as a minority party. Hoping one day he will become CM.

Jagna's groups will becoming a headache to congress party as his father used to be.

Students will concentrate on their studies, exams,campus interviews.
Once in a year students pay tribute to Srikanth by lighting a candle.

Some where in small village in Adilabad a farmer will be sitting sad and thinking about his debt. A bus as usual starts from Palmoore heading towards Bombay sorry Mumbai..(Raj Takre will kill me, yup..I forgot Raj continues his Marathi movement). Some where in Chittore district some woman will be forced to prostitution in Mumbai.

Some times (during issue of B-forms, state cabinet expansion some slogans of Telangana).

It all goes like this ,we are used to it. Telangan issue was and will (I hope it doesn't happen) be a weapon for politicians like KCR.

But this blog and the comments should remain.
subhash..

raghu said...

Mahesh kalaal,

What about innocent people of Andhra and Rayalaseema also living their life because of that beautiful pocket.


Today most of the students study technical courses like MCA, Btech etc. to get their jobs only at that beautiful pocket. Parents of those students invest all their hard earned money and also get loans ,to get their job only at that beautiful pocket.

They dont know anything about your agreements and he/she was not even born at that time. But these students become non local if telangana is formed. What is their fate???? Their parents fate??? This is immediate issue... Dont remove this comment. REPLY.

Anonymous said...

comment visible only after approval. What is this you want only good responses on telangana only.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Anonymous ...

1.comment visible only after approval. What is this you want only good responses on telangana only.

--> I have enabled comment moderation becuase few readers have exchanged socially unacceptable terms with unparliamentary language.
Ex: First comment on this topic is from Jacob paul. I had deleted his comment because he used some derogatory words
.
-->So, thats why i had enabled moderation. Otherwise you are most welcome with your constructive criticism, opinions and feedback. You can rip apart Wisdomism with logic, rationality and objectivity

--> To avoid personal bashing/blaming, i am moderating comments. Wisdomism accepts anything within social parameters .

--> You read all comments. I have accepted comments which have differences/criticismss with my opinions too...
ex: Raghav and many amonymous readers like you

--> It will be gald on your part if you come with your name too :) :) :)

Thanks anyway for raising the point on moderation. Keep expressing your concerns and responses.

cheers :)
mahesh kalaal

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@raghu...

Hi buddy......I do appreciate for raising a concerned issue of importance and practical relevance.

1. Students studying technical courses like MCA, Btech will obviously look forward to work in software jobs, which are totally in private sector.

2. If Telangana separates, Andhra/Seema students getting software jobs in Hyderabad will be similar to the way getting jobs in Bangalore/chennai/pune/Noida etc

4. Private companies prefer talent and merit rather than the locality. Even many students from other states are working in hyderabad software companies since years without any hassles.

5. So, there is nothing to worry that there wont be access to the beautiful pocket for Andhra/seems students just because separate state will form.

6. Primarily, it is a state reorganisation and not a country division. I stress this point.

7. In india we have single citizenship which implies that anyone can study/live/invest/work anywhere in India, irrespective of his state/region/caste/gender/religion etc provided within the limlits of constitutional procedures and regulations(for govt sector only)

8. If students from AP are getting jobs and have been working in software companies in Pune/noida/kolkatta/mumbai/bangalore/chennai though they are non locals, then they can definitely get job in Hyderabad even if separate telangana forms. It doesnt make a difference.

9. Many Kannadigas/Gujaratis/Marathis/parsis have been living/studying/working/investing in Hyderabad since deacdes without any issues.
ex : Gujarathis even built "Pragati maha vidyalaya" for their educational advancement.
ex: Many computer shops at CMC/Jewellery shops in Basheerbagh/sweet shops/Hotels-Restaurants are under the hold of Marathis/Gujarathis since decades
ex: Kannadigas have minority rights on linguistic basis too.

--> Am I clear now, buddy? :(

*** I have never removed any comment in my blog till now except in the cases where the readers used derogatory and unparliamentary language or personal bashing . Comments crossing the societal parameters will be deleted to maintain the blog decency.
ex:First comment on this topic is from Jacob paul. I had deleted his comment because he used some derogatory words

** may I know what exactly made you to think that I will remove comments??

--> Indeed , you are most welcome with your constructive criticism, opinions, response and feedback. You can rip apart Wisdomism with logic, rationality and objectivity

Thanks for your time :)

cheers
mahesh kalaal

Anonymous said...

Hi this is sathish
I think it is better to go for elections now. All party's agenda are clear now. People know the hidden agendas now. So it is better to go for elections now. We can not take some movements or agitations (both in telangan and andhra) as the opinion of people. If TRS or all Telangana supporting partys win, thats all..Telangan is formed.
Stop this fights,hunger strikes..dont spoil our properties. It is better to bear the election budget to this property loss.

Even though I am from Khammam, I hate this KCRs talks. Its true, if it is our right to say Jai Telangana, then it is their right to say samaikhya andhra. Why should we beg Sonia, let us resign and go for elections.

Mahesh Kalaal said...

Hi Satish....

Yeah, your point is very much valid and rational....

* Even I am not supporting KCR..... I wont vote him if telangana separates.

--> I do agree with you that elections are the better than violent agitations. On paper elections seem to be very good choice, but when we it happens on field, you know very well about the various manipulations of public mandate in voting procedures. India is still in elementary democracy where parties buy/bargain votes rather than deserve votes. Your solution definitely works in any uniform society with rational and matured democratic procedures, but not in contemporary India. Anyways, lets consider your point.

1. Even if the elections are conducted and telangana people vote for Separate Telangana, It is not absolute and certain that Centre will say ok for separate state because the power/Authority regarding formation of new state lies exclusively with central govt(Article 2 an 3 of constitution)

2.Even if all the people of telangana vote for TRS and remaining seemandhra vote for Samiakyandhra parties.....still we will face a deadlock as in state assembly Seemandhra MLAs strength is more...

3. If elections mandate is to be respected , then we could have got telangana in 1969 or 2004 itself

4. More than the electoral democracy , the telangana issue is all about the Regional discrimination/exploitation and business empires in Hyderabad. Political commitment at the central level is more strategic than at the state level.

5. The decision of center primarily depends on the number of transactions in thousands of crores in between high command and the regional MPs..

6.Elections or not Elections .....High command target would be 2014 elections and expanding/strengthening their political/financial empires.

7. Whatever we all together(peace or violence) do, we have to beg Italy SONIA madam to grant Telangana/AP. We dont have choice now until 2014.

8. Finally, you know this too that any party's agenda can keep changing within seconds depending on their political interests. (Remember YSR saying "jai telangana" in Telangana tour and "No Telangana" in Rayalaseema tour within 2 days)

*** Jai Telangana is not just political movement of one party. It has been in existence in AP since 1952

*** By the way, whenever people say "Jai Samiakyandhra" it sounds as nothing more than "Jai SamaikyaHyderabad". Their concern is all about Hyderabad, not the remaining Telangana.

Thanks for ur time and the constructive response.

cheers :)
mahesh kalaal

Mahesh Kalaal said...

@ Subhash....

Well said with enough pragmatic flavours....

Not only this blog and the comments should remain but also the fights against injustices/exploitation/discrimination/humiliations/domination of unauthorised entities......

thanks :)

cheers :)
mahesh kalaal

Ramana said...

http://www.sakshi.com/main/Weeklydetails.aspx?Newsid=43627&Categoryid=11&subcatid=25

Read the statistics and conclude why water cannot be stored in Telangana before coming to conclusions

Mahesh Kalaal said...

Hi Ramana....

thanks for your time and the rational link too...(sunday dec27 sakshifamily 1)

I think you are referring to the various heights of Telangana districts mentioned by Undavalli kiran regarding the validity of Irrigation Projects in Telangana....

My questions are...

1. if it is so, Why did the YSR govt(in which undavalli was a member too) has allocated Rs.4,225 crores has been allocated for `major irrigation priority projects' in Telangana in 2007 alone?. Doesnt the height mattered then. ?

2. If Nalgonda is at 1381 feet, then how come we have "Nagarjuna sagar dam" in Nalgonda???

3. Sir, If Nizamabad is at 1296 feet, then how come we have Sriramsagar project on Godavari there? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sriram_Sagar) ?

4. How about Yellampalli Project on Godavari in Karimnagar dist of height 869 feet??
How about Komaram Bheem Project in Adilabad dist of 866 feet ??

5. How about the Nizamsagar Project on Manjeera river in Nizamabad of height 1296 feet?

6. How about Dummugudem Hydro Electric Project(requires height) on Godavari in Khammam dist ?

7. Jurala project in Mahabubnagar is constructed by AP Govt. Hadnt height mattered then?

8*** . If a dist is at certain height it doesnt mean that the total area of the dist is on same height. I think Undavalli kiran has just taken sides than having a comprehensive objectivity....hmmmm. Sir, come out of your prejudices and bias.

9. Now, Ramana, could you please read the statistics and conclude why water cannot be stored in Telangana before coming to conclusions??

thanks again :)

cheers
mahesh kalaal :) :)

Venkatesh said...

Hi

@Mahesh.... awesome yaaar thanks for all your efforts...keep going...

@All..

literally I got tears in eyes when reading the blog...I sit in a popular MNC earning 25k ..why should I get tears in my eyes when I am earning 25K?? why dont you userstand your feelings friends??Please try to understand our feelings...

I studied in a mandal(in warangal) where there is no degree college ....for get about my mandal what about Ranga Reddy District?? how may degree colleges does it have??

There is a lot of money to build big big projects(worth 40000 to 50000 crores !!!!!) for Andhra and Raayalaseema ...but there is no money to allot some degree colleges to Ranga Reddy District....where is the justice??

Please dont criticize the movement of Telangana because of the cheap and selfish politicians like KCR..

Jai Telangaana
Jai Hind.

Venkatesh said...

sorry for the mistakes ...

--> why dont you userstand our* feelings friends??

my apologies..

raj nandu netha said...

hi,
the writings r good
i really felt happy as the movement is run by students.people think that they have developed the city n der cotribution is more in developMENT.IS DESTROYING GREENERY N BUILDING CONCRETE IS THE DEVELOPment they call.
the only people who r opposing is the big hipe investors they r scared of working as workers in there own farms at there natives
.my wishes to the students who r on rally from OU CAMPUS

Dheeraj said...

@Mahesh FYI:

I came across this blog today and wanted to let you know.

http://www.myteluguroots.com/

The author published a book - 'Telangana - A Bhasmasura Wish'. He claims that he collected data and is genuine.

-- Dheeraj

Nitya said...

Nice one Mahesh, I m from Telangana too. I'm happy that atleast now the plight of these under developed areas has come into focus.
Now is the time for the politicians to sit and think on the issue.

Your article is good !!

Cheers!

Anonymous said...

Hi Mahesh,
How about discussing all miseries of telangana now after one year of formation.

How about talking five years later.

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